[sword-devel] Android SWORD

Wed Aug 25 05:11:37 MST 2010

Hi Ken,

You can find and-bible source and builds here:
http://code.google.com/p/and-bible/

Take a look and then contact me again later if you want or you could develop
Bishop if you prefer.

Best regards

Martin

On 25 August 2010 00:01, Kenneth Arnold <kenneth.arnold at gmail.com> wrote:

> I just got an Android phone, and after seeing the state of Bible
> software currently available, I'm excited about helping develop a good
> SWORD-powered Bible reader for it. I installed Troy's bishop2.apk and
> tried to download a module... fail (logcat at end of message). So I
> went looking for the code to see if I could track down the problem...
> but I haven't found any source code anywhere. Is that intentional, or
> am I missing something?
>
> As a user (previously of Laridian on WinMo), I've made this list of
> requirements for a Bible reader:
> - local storage
> - fast navigation UI (Laridian had specialized T9 for book names. You
> could get most anywhere in the Bible in about 6 keypresses.)
> - continuous scrolling (across chapter divisions)
> - cross references and footnotes
> - word/phrase search (perhaps fuzzy?)
>
> optional features:
> - scripture memory helper (I have a lot of concrete ideas here)
> - finding related resources (e.g., sermons) from selected resources
> - daily reading (or at least "what's next after things I've read
> recently?")
> - screen orientation lock
> - song lyrics
> - history tracking ("what passages did I look up while studying
> yesterday?"), perhaps communally ("what books have my friends been
> reading?")
>
> Any other interest in helping out? How can we organize a team?
>
> Martin, if you're still listening, I'd love to check out your code too.
>
> -Ken
>
>
> PS - here's the `adb logcat` from a failed module download. Turns out
> it succeeds if you create a 'modules' directory inside /sdcard/sword
> :) -- but then there are plenty of other issues.
>
> 08-24 23:19:46.443  2002  2021 D libsword.so: remoteInstallModule:
> sourceName: CrossWire
> 08-24 23:19:46.443  2002  2021 D libsword.so: remoteInstallModule: modName:
> ESV
> 08-24 23:19:46.443  2002  2021 D libsword.so: *****
> InstallMgr::installModule
> 08-24 23:19:46.443  2002  2021 D libsword.so: ***** modName: ESV
> 08-24 23:19:47.286  2002  2021 D libsword.so: ***** mgr.prefixPath:
> /sdcard/sword/InstallMgr/20081216195754/
> 08-24 23:19:47.286  2002  2021 D libsword.so: *****
> destMgr->prefixPath: /sdcard/sword/
> 08-24 23:19:47.286  2002  2021 D libsword.so: ***** absolutePath:
> /sdcard/sword/InstallMgr/20081216195754/modules/texts/ztext/esv/
> 08-24 23:19:47.286  2002  2021 D libsword.so: ***** relativePath:
> modules/texts/ztext/esv/
> 08-24 23:19:47.286  2002  2021 D libsword.so: netCopy:
> ftp.crosswire.org, modules/texts/ztext/esv/,
> /sdcard/sword/InstallMgr/20081216195754/modules/texts/ztext/esv/, t,
> 08-24 23:19:47.341  2002  2021 W System.err: Problem installing: -1
> 08-24 23:19:47.396  2002  2002 D libsword.so: getModInfoList returning
> 0 length array
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Martin Denham <mjdenham at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Troy,
> > Apologies, I was a bit confused regarding the different projects.  The
> above was my first post to *Sword forums.  I incorrectly thought that
> JSword, Sword and other Crosswire forums would be worked on by the same
> people.  I have now joined the JSword-dev list which I had not spotted
> before.
> > Whether the back end is built based on Sword or JSword it might be
> worthwhile combining with the Java Jsword guys for the front end which I
> think has to be in Java.
> > I may download your apk and try it out.  I can put my code/build
> somewhere if you want but it's still in a state of great flux.
> > Kind regards
> > Martin
> > On 13 June 2010 04:54, Troy A. Griffitts <scribe at crosswire.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Martin,
> >>
> >> Great news on your success of getting JSword to build on Android.  I'm
> >> sure the JSword mailing list would be interested to hear about your
> success!
> >>
> >> I'm not sure about the speed.  I will add a primitive search box to my
> >> test app and let you know how long a complete search of the KJV (a
> >> heavily marked up Bible) takes on my G1.
> >>
> >> Troy.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 06/09/2010 05:28 AM, mjdenham wrote:
> >> > Hi Troy,
> >> >
> >> > I just thought I would mention that I have also been playing around
> with
> >> > Android.
> >> >
> >> > I have spent the last few weeks creating a prototype bible viewer
> >> > application for Android, but I just noticed Troy's messages in this
> forum.
> >> > I took a slightly different technical approach to you and I don't know
> which
> >> > is better and I also came at this project with the aim of creating a
> mobile
> >> > bible viewer I could tweak and improve rather than specifically to
> write an
> >> > Android front end for Sword.  By way of information I thought I would
> >> > outline my approach and what led me to start.
> >> >
> >> > I have used Pocket e-Sword for many years but development has now
> ceased on
> >> > Pocket e-Sword and it is already looking a bit old, as is WinMob that
> it
> >> > runs on, so I started thinking what to use in the future.  Although I
> loved
> >> > using Pocket e-sword there were one or two things that I would have
> loved to
> >> > change if I had access to the source but the source was closed.  Most
> pocket
> >> > bible apps seem to be closed source and many charge money or depend on
> being
> >> > on-line so I began to think about writing my own.  I have been writing
> Java
> >> > code for a living since the 90's.  I looked at Java ME which
> unfortunately
> >> > is not supported by recent, popular, trend-setting phones like iPhone
> and
> >> > Android and started going that route but there doesn't seem to be much
> >> >
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1414288/j2me-vs-android-vs-iphone-vs-symbian-vs-windows-ce
> >> > buzz around Java ME  at the moment.  I briefly thought of iPhone but
> refuse
> >> > to learn Objective-C, buy a Mac, and bend over backwards to get the
> app into
> >> > App Store.  Then I realised that Google have built Android primarily
> for
> >> > Java Applications and Gartner predict that by 2012 Android will
> outsell the
> >> > iPhone so I downloaded the Android SDK and am impresed by the
> application
> >> > framework Google have put into Android.  Incidentally I went to a
> >> > fascinating talk on Android by Reto Meier yesterday evening.
> >> >
> >> > As Android hosts Java apps so well it seemed a good idea to use java
> front
> >> > to back so I downloaded the  jSword and sword-Common projects back-end
> to
> >> > serve the OSIS documents and started creating a Java front-end for
> jsword on
> >> > Android so I have now been doing that for the last couple of weeks off
> and
> >> > on.  I included the jsword and common jars in my Android app and
> simplified
> >> > the xslt template I found in bible-desktop and now have a basic bible
> viewer
> >> > app.
> >> >
> >> > Troy, I am interested to see that you use jni to access a C back-end.
>  Is
> >> > that right?  Does this give better performance or is there another
> reason.
> >> >
> >> > In the front end I am currently using a TextView but briefly used a
> WebView
> >> > which has better html support. I may have to switch back to WebView.
>  I
> >> > tried to copy the PocketSword verse selection screen but failed so I
> am just
> >> > using 3 combos for now.
> >> >
> >> > I haven't used Crosswire code before and it took me a while to get
> used to
> >> > OSIS and jsword but the code looks great and I am now familiar enough
> with
> >> > jsword to find my way around the necessary parts.
> >> >
> >> > Here is a screen print of the current state:
> >> >
> http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/file/n2248754/android-bible1.jpg
> >> >
> >> > For now I am still happily trying to improve on the prototype but I
> could
> >> > switch and contribute to a central project  with others.  My only aim
> is to
> >> > create a good open source bible I can tweak and that others may find
> useful
> >> > too.
> >> >
> >> > Best regards
> >> > Martin
> >> >
> >>
> >>
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