[sword-devel] Poetry and indented lines

Ben Morgan benpmorgan at gmail.com
Mon Mar 9 18:21:48 MST 2009


 On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 12:03 PM, DM Smith <dmsmith at crosswire.org> wrote:

> On Mar 9, 2009, at 6:22 PM, Ben Morgan wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 5:43 AM, DM Smith <dmsmith at crosswire.org> wrote:
>
> Thanks Chris. Based on that I've updated
>> http://crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_Bibles#Marking_poetic_material.
>>
>> I checked the SWORD and JSword renderers and they don't do indentation
>> based upon level. I think it would be simple to add. I'll do it for JSword,
>> but I don't have the time to do it for SWORD. It looks like a couple of
>> lines to osishtmlhref.cpp and osisrtf.cpp.
>
> It may not quite that simple... without css, I'm not sure how you can do
> indentations easily in html (blockquotes? &nbsp;s?). BPBible currently
> extends the wxHTML parser to add some new tags and then it is easy. I should
> be able to make BPBible use the level attribute very easily.
>
>
> OK. Since you have implemented it, I'll take your word that it is not
> straightforward.
>
At least not in wxHTML, anyway.


> For JSword, we use CSS for all styling of the generated html. That html is
> somewhat ugly in that it is very old HTML and does not recognize elements
> such as <span>, which we'd use to mark inline text for a style. Instead we
> use <font> for the same purpose in this fashion:
> <font class="line">text of line</font>.
> So now it would become something like:
> <font class="line indent2">text of line at level="2"</font>
>
> The CSS would probably set margin-left or padding-left to so many ems.
>
wxHTML doesn't support CSS (nor do some other frontend's html components)


> If we didn't do that we could use mediawikis encoding of ':' which uses
> <dl><dd> to do the indentation as in:
>
> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>As above, subject is "Poetry and indented
> lines", date is 11/04/08. Direct link <a href="
> http://www.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-devel/2008-November/029486.html"
> class="external free" title="
> http://www.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-devel/2008-November/029486.html"
> rel="nofollow">
> http://www.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-devel/2008-November/029486.html</a>
> --<a
> href="/mediawiki/index.php?title=User:Mwtalbert&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1"
> class="new" title="User:Mwtalbert (page does not exist)">Mwtalbert</a>
> 00:02, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
> </dd></dl>
> </dd></dl>
> </dd></dl>
> </dd></dl>
>
I think this is probably better (but ugly). Theoretically, though, I think
the line could end in a different verse (and I'm pretty sure it does
somewhere in the 2001 ESV, though not the 2007), which could mess this up a
little.


> The hard part of this is that it is more complex to implement in SWORD.
>
> Failing that, &nbsp; can be used. This is the easiest of all and precisely
> what I was thinking when I said it could be done.
>
That would be simplest, but doesn't do indentation if lines wrap.


> Something like (this is pseudo code):
> if (!tag.isEndTag() && !tag.isEmpty()) {
> int level = tag.getAttribute("level");
> for (i= 1; i < level; i++) {
> output('&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;')
> }
> }
>
> But SonWon's admonishing that might not be appropriate for portable devices
> should be listened to. I don't know of the osishtmlhref or osisrtf filters
> are used there.
>
I think this is important to display, though the size of indent might be
negotiable.

God Bless,
Ben
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