[sword-devel] New OSIS chapter/verse checking utility

Gregory Hellings greg.hellings at gmail.com
Tue Sep 30 09:33:53 MST 2008 


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On Sep 30, 2008, at 11:10, "David Fredin" <xduffy at gmail.com> wrote:

>> While I can not say much about the further OSIS conversion steps, I  
>> think you want to be cautious and very careful how you approach the  
>> Swedish Bible society. It is easy to upset people over copyrights  
>> and it takes years to recover from that.
> Thanks for the warning, I will try to get them interested by showing
> how the software works. I happen to live in the same city as the HQ
> for the Swedish Bible society.
>
>> Dealing with similar situations I found most helpful having a ready  
>> text available, but also - and sometimes more improtantly having a  
>> translated front-end(s). Also have a look at GoBible (for J2MEE  
>> Mobile phones) - once you got your OSIS source ready this is an  
>> easy thing too and often gets people quite excited.
> That sounds really good too. Though I would really like to show it off
> on my iPhone, but there are no sword clients there yet?

No native iPhone client yet due to Apple's software restrictions. They  
still haven't given me a final answer on whether or not they will  
allow open-sourced applications or not. I had worked up most of an  
iPhone web client which I could send your way and you could host on  
any Java-enabled server of your choice for the demo.

Also, getting them to release in CCL might not be the most corporate- 
friendly suggestion. As the copyright holders they can give special  
permission to distribute in OSIS or SWORD format if they choose  
without giving up their copyright in a CCL move.

Greg

>
>
> // David
>
>>
>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>>> Datum: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:41:27 +0200
>>> Von: "David Fredin" <xduffy at gmail.com>
>>> An: "SWORD Developers\' Collaboration Forum" <sword-devel at crosswire.org 
>>> >
>>> Betreff: Re: [sword-devel] New OSIS chapter/verse checking utility
>>
>>> Interested in sharing the source for that conversion of html-bibles?
>>>
>>> I am working on a conversion of the Swedish Bible 2000 (not a  
>>> version
>>> number but the year it was released :-) ). And so far I have
>>> downloaded every chapter of the Bible as separate html-files,  
>>> imported
>>> them into a sqlite-db with minimal html-markup (done with python +  
>>> the
>>> BeautifulSoup-parser). So I suppose the last step to OSIS  
>>> shouldn't be
>>> too hard. But any hints or pieces of advice is very welcome.
>>>
>>> The hardest part I suppose is to then talk the Swedish  
>>> biblecommission
>>> into releasing it into the wild under an Creative Commons license,  
>>> or
>>> such...
>>>
>>> All the best!
>>> // David Fredin
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 22:13, Steven J. DeRose <sderose at acm.org>  
>>> wrote:
>>>> Great info, thanks David! I have code in there to cover the Psalm
>>>> ascriptions, but I'll check vs. the sources you mention to be sure
>>>> I've got them all covered. The Slavonic book order difference is  
>>>> new
>>>> to me -- many thanks for pointing it out, I'll add an option for  
>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>> Side note -- i'm presently hacking at some code to convert a  
>>>> bunch of
>>>> online bibles to very regular OSIS files, which I'll then put  
>>>> online
>>>> somewhere (Troy, might you want to host them?). Anybody up for
>>>> helping with that or taking a look at results as I produce them? (I
>>>> wrote osisCheck mostly to ensure that my converters don't screw
>>>> anything up....).
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:33:08 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>> From: David Haslam <d.haslam at ukonline.co.uk>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] New OSIS chapter/verse checking utility
>>>>> To: sword-devel at crosswire.org
>>>>> Message-ID: <19515509.post at talk.nabble.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Take account that the Psalms are numbered differently in various  
>>>>> canons.
>>> See
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psalms#Numbering
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psalms#Numbering
>>>>>
>>>>> And also that versification of the Psalms that have canonical
>>> ascriptions
>>>>> (such as "A Psalm of Asaph") can also differ. e.g. Most French  
>>>>> Bibles
>>> assign
>>>>> verse 1 to these, and offset the rest by +1.  This observation  
>>>>> is not
>>>>> included in the above Wikipedia page.
>>>>>
>>>>> The book order in the New Testament is not the same in Slavonic  
>>>>> Bibles
>>> as it
>>>>> is in the Western canon. The General Epistles are all between  
>>>>> Acts and
>>>>> Romans. A useful link is
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Books_of_the_Bible
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Books_of_the_Bible
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> David Haslam
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Steve DeRose -- http://www.derose.net, email sderose at acm.org
>>>>
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