[sword-devel] Flashcards Mobile

Mon Sep 15 14:09:27 MST 2008

An interesting side note:

Since these lessons are generated from our KJV2003 data, and since often 
I will see one of the answers for a word that makes no sense at all, 
this likely points to an error which should be corrected in our KJV 
module.  We should have a tool in place to allow update submissions for 
this data.  Maybe I'll get around to something soon.  But keep notes if 
you see anything!

	-Troy.

Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> Hey Greg, Thanks for your feedback, but I'm pretty ignorant about the 
> iPhone.  Could you explain your comments to me and help me understand.
> 
> Gregory Hellings wrote:
>> On a similar note, you can set the viewport size explicitly to the  
>> 320x480 of whatever it is, and that will help dramatically.  
>> Additionally, anything smaller than about 18pt font gets hard to read.  
>> I could barely read the text without zooming
>>
>> On another note I tried Jude and got a blank page of notes on the  
>> iPhone.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2008, at 15:30, "Troy A. Griffitts" <scribe at crosswire.org>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for testing Steve (and nice to hear your voice here!).  When  
>>> you
>>> clicked on the "Mobile" link, there should have been a link just under
>>> that called "Web-Based (iPhone)" or something worded similar.
>>>
>>> Those 2 links you got to are JAD files for J2ME phones, and since all
>>> other phones on the planet have a J2ME runtime environment EXCEPT the
>>> iPhone, we had to make a web-based version just for them (iPhone v1;
>>> we're hoping to maybe write a native app for the iPhone v2 now that
>>> Apple has so graciously provided a development kit).
>>>
>>>    :)  I think now is a perfect time for you to come visit me here  
>>> at Tyndale!
>>>
>>>        -Troy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Steven J. DeRose wrote:
>>>> Troy, I tried out crosswire.org/fc/g from my iPhone 3G --
>>>>
>>>> I got to the "Generating Lessons" page, then clicked on the "Mobile
>>>> Lessons" link. That took me to a page headed "Flashcards" with 2
>>>> links below ("John 1.1-John.1.51.1" and "John 1.1-John.1.51.2" -- not
>>>> sure what the last token is for); but clicking either of those links
>>>> just got me "Safari can't download this file".
>>>>
>>>> Also, at least for the iPhone, I'd recommend adding more vertical
>>>> space between links -- especially in portrait mode, they're a little
>>>> hard for me to hit accurately. Also pump up the overall size
>>>> especially on the very first page (including the textbox to fill in a
>>>> reference range) -- too small for my old eyes (I do wish Safari
>>>> iPhone had a "use minimum font size" setting like Safari Mac.....).
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:52:58 +0100
>>>>> From: "Troy A. Griffitts" <scribe at crosswire.org>
>>>>> Subject: [sword-devel] Flashcards Mobile
>>>>> To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum <sword- 
>>>>> devel at crosswire.org>
>>>>> Message-ID: <48CE76CA.5020706 at crosswire.org>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Hey guys.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm looking for some cell phone testers, J2ME (most all phones), and
>>>>> also someone with an iPhone.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have recently added a web based dynamic lesson generator for our
>>>>> flashcards package.
>>>>>
>>>>> The way it works, is that the page asks you for a range of  
>>>>> Scripture.
>>>>> It will then collate and sort all words found in the supplied  
>>>>> range and
>>>>> create flashcard lessons from these words.
>>>>>
>>>>> The idea is that when one is having a Greek or Hebrew study group  
>>>>> and
>>>>> they know they will be reading, say Romans 4-5 next week, they can
>>>>> generate vocab for just those chapters and polish their memory  
>>>>> during
>>>>> the week.  At least that is why I wanted this feature :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Lessons are produced in 3 formats:
>>>>>
>>>>> Mobile
>>>>> iPhone Micro-Web-Based
>>>>> Desktop
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's the catch.  The generation task is fairly machine  
>>>>> intensive, and
>>>>> it might not be concurrency-safe.  I am not looking to break  
>>>>> things in
>>>>> these two ways right now.  Just looking for phone feedback.  SO  
>>>>> PLEASE:
>>>>> Pick a small Scripture range.  Don't experiment just for fun yet.   
>>>>> I'll
>>>>> be working of stability and optimization after things are being  
>>>>> produced
>>>>> correctly.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have no idea how the web-based app will display on any micro- 
>>>>> browser.
>>>>>  I tried to use small controls.  Right now we're not displaying the
>>>>> pre-rendered images for the webapp.  I'd like to see how the  
>>>>> iPhone does
>>>>> with UTF-8 Greek and Hebrew.  If we need to, we can switch over to  
>>>>> the
>>>>> pre-rendered images.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's the link.  Again, please be kind to our server and be  
>>>>> patient for
>>>>> any lesson you ask to generate for more than a couple chapters.   
>>>>> It does
>>>>> cache requests, so if you ask for the same request, it won't  
>>>>> regenerate.
>>>>>
>>>>> From your phone:
>>>>>
>>>>> crosswire.org/fc/g
>>>>>
>>>>> Appreciate any feedback.
>>>>>
>>>>>    -Troy.
>>>>>
>>>
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