[sword-devel] HTML Designers / Papyri Database

[DM Smith]

Looks good under Mac's Safari, but needs help for a crippled, one  
button mouse!

Some comments and thoughts, realizing that much of what I mention  
might be due to the developmental nature of the prototype:
When it first comes up the image is in blue. Clicking on "Edit"  
removed the blue. And it never came back.

There are no zoom controls available with a 1-button mouse.
	There should be another way to do it.
	Also, should be present as an "assistive" technology for those that  
don't use a mouse for input.

The mouse would do well to change as the mouse moves over points of  
interest and be an appropriate pointer. For example,
	[Pan] [Edit] always show the text insertion cursor. As these are  
button placeholders, it will probably change naturally.
	When the mouse is over a box it could become a location sensitive  
grow or move cursor.

I'm not sure how the "box" is supposed to be used.
	Is it to surround each word in turn or each line or each letter?
		You might change "Button" wording to indicate the operation,  
"Previous Word", "Next Word".
	Is the ordering of the boxes important?
	If it is each line, it would be good to add "Next Line"
	When the image is zoomed such that the right edge of the current box  
is near or past the edge, adding a box "after" positions the box in  
such a way that it is not obvious what happened.
	Also, the canvas seems to be infinitely bigger than the image.
		It might be nice to ensure that part of the image is always on the  
canvas.
		It might be nice to border the image on the canvas.
		It might be nice to constrain the box to the image.

My guess is that the box is to surround each word. If so, I would  
find it easier to box each line and then draw a line between each  
word. Then adding a box would be a "Line Tool" and splitting a box  
with a line would be a "Word Tool" I don't know if there would be a  
need for a "Vertical Line Tool" and a "Horizontal Line Tool" but if  
so there might be a Text orientation choice.

If it is to be a line of letters, then I would want a "Line Tool",  
"Word Tool" and a "Letter Tool"
There should be some assistive way to create a box without the mouse.  
(I'd rather use a keyboard exclusively if I could)
I think it might be neat that as letters are typed for a "Word" that  
the "Word" box is automatically subdivided into equally sized  
regions, which can later be adjusted.
It would be cool that when a box is not active that the typed text is  
visible in the box, perhaps with text autosized to the dimensions of  
the box but tunable by the user, giving an easy way to compare.

Anyway, enough rambling.

-- DM



On Sep 6, 2006, at 1:31 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:

> Been slow going still, but have updated the demo a little.  It uses
> something more interesting: P46, page 1, recto.
>
> It now auto-zooms the image to the width of your browser, on load.   
> You
> can still use the mouse-wheel to zoom as you'd like.
>
> New boxes duplicate the dimensions of the last box and are initially
> positioned to something sane based on which (before/after) link was  
> clicked.
>
> You can actually type the letter on your keyboard to perform the
> transcription (provided you can switch to a Unicode keyboard IME--  
> works
> in GNOME).
>
> The current image is about 6 megs, so it might take a little while to
> load the page.  Something in production would probably initially  
> load a
> lower res images until zoom level required more... but this is just a
> concept app.
>
> I think I still need to redo the design to work well in IE.
>
> Anyway, have a look if you're interested.
>
> http://crosswire.org/~scribe/papyriedit/transcribeLevel1.jsp
>
> 	-Troy.
>
>
>
> Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>> Just added support for the [Add After] button.
>>
>> David, could you try adding and sizing a few region boxes, and  
>> then use
>> your mouse wheel to zoom the image in and out?  On my copy of IE, the
>> boxes neither position themselves nor size correctly with the image.
>>
>>       -Troy.
>>
>> http://crosswire.org/~scribe/papyriedit/transcribeLevel1.jsp
>>
>> DavidTroidl at aol.com wrote:
>>> In a message dated 8/12/2006 11:56:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> dmsmith555 at yahoo.com writes:
>>>
>>>     http://crosswire.org/~scribe/papyriedit/transcribeLevel1.jsp
>>>
>>> I loaded the page in IE-7 beta 2, it shows "Level 1  
>>> Transcription" and a
>>> shadowed rock shape, with controls for [pan] and [edit], and  
>>> links to
>>> _load_ and _save_.  When I use the browser's Zoom In and Zoom Out,
>>> everything is smooth.
>>>
>>> Peace,
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
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