[sword-devel] Hesychius / MacSword / 1.5.9
Manfred Bergmann
bergmannmd at yahoo.de
Thu Nov 23 14:20:01 MST 2006
Troy,
unfortunately we no longer have holiday on this day of Thanksgiving
in germany.
HE really must love us. He lets the sun shine and let the rain fall
above all of us. And everything is wonderful what he did and does.
Now it's really time to think of good but I will first tell some
results of my work:
The keys of GenBook are now checked if they are UTF or Latin. Is
there a general method which gives information about if a module is
encoded in UTF?
The indexing with Lucene seems to work correct for GenBook also with
UTF key and content, also for Hesychius. Searching seems to find the
correct results as far as I can tell. There is some XML content in
the content of the key which is displayed in the search result. I'm,
not sure where this comes from.
On double clicking on the search result row, the correct key with its
content is opened. But unfortunately on choosing a key in the content
pane on the right the content doesn't change, so there is still a
problem.
API problems from Sword 1.5.8 to 1.5.9:
In TreeKeyIdx getFullName() doesn't seem to be there, I changed to
getLocalName() and it seems to work, please let me know if this is
correct.
MacSword, uses BT_BASICFILTER class from BibleTime which is a
subclass of SWBasicFilter.
In a method in BT_BASICFILTER, tokenSubMap is used and the compiler
tells me that this is unknown. Have no idea why.
Here is a picture of the current efford for GenBook.
http://homepage.mac.com/manfred.bergmann/.public/msHesySearch.png
Best regards and God bless,
Manfred
Am 23.11.2006 um 18:26 schrieb Troy A. Griffitts:
> Manfred,
> It is likely to work ok with 1.5.8. Also, the API changes were very
> few between 1.5.8 and 1.5.9. If you decide to try the upgrade, please
> ask if anything won't compile. Someone here can probably answer any
> questions pretty quick. It would be nice ultimately to have a
> MacSword
> running the 1.5.9 engine because most of the new modules really do
> require it. Thank you for your help and contributions, Manfred.
>
> I don't know if this is a holiday for you, but in the US it is
> Thanksgiving Day, so Praise God Who died a brutal death so we could be
> with Him forever, because He loves us so much!!!
>
>
> -Troy.
>
>
>
> Manfred Bergmann wrote:
>> Troy.
>>
>> minimum Sword version 1.5.9.
>> Does Hesychius work with 1.5.8?
>> If not, I have to compile and integrate 1.5.9. Are there any API
>> changes from 1.5.8 that might break something?
>> Unfortunately I don't know the API of Sword so if there are any
>> problems I'm more or less helpless.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Manfred
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 23.11.2006 um 16:00 schrieb Troy A. Griffitts:
>>
>>> Manfred,
>>> Thank you so much for spending time on this, and in such short
>>> notice.
>>> I do not have a Mac to try it on. How does it do with the
>>> Hesychius
>>> module? It is in General Book format, not Lexicon:
>>>
>>> http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModInfo.jsp?
>>> modName=Hesychius&tester=true&beta=true
>>>
>>> -Troy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Manfred Bergmann wrote:
>>>> Sorry again.
>>>>
>>>> But here are the updates with a functional dictionary search.
>>>> I saw the links in the other mail were broken, here again:
>>>> http://homepage.mac.com/manfred.bergmann/.public/MacSword-
>>>> debug.app.zip
>>>> http://homepage.mac.com/manfred.bergmann/.public/MacSword-
>>>> release.app.zip
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Time for bed now...
>>>> Good night
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 22.11.2006 um 22:11 schrieb Manfred Bergmann:
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry folks.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was a bit to fast.
>>>>> Unfortunately the search in lexicons doesn't work.
>>>>> I will have a look at this first but nevertheless someone could
>>>>> test
>>>>> the bible book search.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Manfred
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 21.11.2006 um 21:12 schrieb Troy A. Griffitts:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Manfred,
>>>>>> Yes, that would make him dance. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Troy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Manfred Bergmann wrote:
>>>>>>> Troy,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sorry I didn't get the time on the evening that I said.
>>>>>>> But I defenitely will have a look this week.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just that I understood right.
>>>>>>> What he wants to do is some kind of incremental search means
>>>>>>> that the
>>>>>>> textfield fires notifications (or Events) whenever a
>>>>>>> character is
>>>>>>> typed
>>>>>>> and the search is updated right away, right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Manfred
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 21.11.2006 um 20:41 schrieb Troy A. Griffitts:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Manfred,
>>>>>>>> This is great news if you might have something available
>>>>>>>> soon. I
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> no experience with MacSword, or programming for the Mac. You
>>>>>>>> would be
>>>>>>>> Dr. Winter's hero if you had a standalone app (macsword)
>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>> with Hesychius for his presentation. Don't stress too much, as
>>>>>>>> he can
>>>>>>>> always require there to be internet access available and use
>>>>>>>> the web
>>>>>>>> tool, but I'm sure it would remove much stress from him if
>>>>>>>> he had
>>>>>>>> something working which didn't require it. Thanks for your
>>>>>>>> efforts.
>>>>>>>> I'm sorry you've not had success getting your additions to
>>>>>>>> macsword
>>>>>>>> released.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Troy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Manfred Bergmann wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Troy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't know if I understood right.
>>>>>>>>> Generally I have the current sources of MacSword and
>>>>>>>>> actually I
>>>>>>>>> helped developing it for quite some time but unfortunately
>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>> updates (Universal Binary) never have been released.
>>>>>>>>> Anyway, changing the search mechanism to work the way you
>>>>>>>>> described
>>>>>>>>> should be doable (once the index has been build).
>>>>>>>>> I can have a closer look at this in the evening (that's in
>>>>>>>>> about 9
>>>>>>>>> hours :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>> Manfred
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 20.11.2006 um 05:42 schrieb Troy A. Griffitts:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> DM, that's a nice screenshot. I think Dr. Winter is mostly
>>>>>>>>>> interested
>>>>>>>>>> in quick/easy searching in either the body or the key of the
>>>>>>>>>> lexicon. I
>>>>>>>>>> can rebuild the lexicon as an SWLD4 module, it macsword
>>>>>>>>>> handles
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> better for searching. In BibleCS, we have an incremental
>>>>>>>>>> search-- as
>>>>>>>>>> the user types it focuses the closes match in the center of
>>>>>>>>>> about 10
>>>>>>>>>> entries of context. That would be great for him for key
>>>>>>>>>> lookups,
>>>>>>>>>> but he
>>>>>>>>>> still wants to search entries, as well. (and actually,
>>>>>>>>>> sometimes the
>>>>>>>>>> keys have multiple words, and his target word might not be
>>>>>>>>>> first,
>>>>>>>>>> so the
>>>>>>>>>> incremental search won't pull it up.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All this to say, with all the great indexing everyone is
>>>>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>>>>> on our
>>>>>>>>>> data-- whether with sword or else with their own index
>>>>>>>>>> build-- it
>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>> be possible to do full body search results as an incremental
>>>>>>>>>> search--
>>>>>>>>>> while the user types, it fills out the results box. Google
>>>>>>>>>> "suggest"
>>>>>>>>>> does this on the entire internet :) We should be able to
>>>>>>>>>> do it
>>>>>>>>>> on a
>>>>>>>>>> much smaller domain of data.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But regardless, I'm not a mac programmer, and have no idea
>>>>>>>>>> how to
>>>>>>>>>> update
>>>>>>>>>> (or even compile; nor do I have access to a mac!) to do
>>>>>>>>>> any of
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> Bruce. So, if we can't get even a simple tool for him by
>>>>>>>>>> Friday, I'll
>>>>>>>>>> probably just say he needs to be sure to have internet access
>>>>>>>>>> for his
>>>>>>>>>> presentation.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Troy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> DM Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2006, at 6:51 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Macintosh Lexicon Support-- The Hesychius lexicon has been
>>>>>>>>>>>> imported as
>>>>>>>>>>>> a sword module into GBS format using, e.g. /A/AD/Adam as
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> tree
>>>>>>>>>>>> structure for entries. Dr. Bruce Winter from Tyndale House
>>>>>>>>>>>> Research
>>>>>>>>>>>> Library is presenting this coming Friday and would like to
>>>>>>>>>>>> use this
>>>>>>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>>>>>>> standalone on his Mac. I have no idea how well GBS is
>>>>>>>>>>>> supported on
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac, or how easy the interface is for him to use.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone who
>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>>>>>> with this would really take some pressure off of me!
>>>>>>>>>>> MacSword supports GenBook quite well, but it might not be
>>>>>>>>>>> obvious how
>>>>>>>>>>> it works.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here is an image of how it looks:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.crosswire.org/~dmsmith/MacSwordGenBook.png
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Note that there is a "tray" on the right of the window.
>>>>>>>>>>> This is activated by the icon in the upper right of the
>>>>>>>>>>> window.
>>>>>>>>>>> The tray is initially closed when the window comes up.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The up and down arrows merely go from one keyed entry to the
>>>>>>>>>>> next.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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