[sword-devel] Hesychius

[Peter von Kaehne]

I spoke yesterday both to Prof Hansen and to Prof Ian Cunningham (who is a collaborator of Hansen) 

http://www.csad.ox.ac.uk/CSAD/Hesychius/Hansen.html

Prof Hansen mentioned the TLG and Prof Cunningham confirmed this + said further there is no electronic version of Hansen's work available. I understand that Hansen's work is published in de Gruyters' Sammlung Griechischer and Lateinischer Altertuemer 

http://www.degruyter.com/rs/174_AT_E_ED_ENU_h.cfm?rc=19992&id=SER-M1-WDG-HESYCH-B-19992&fg=AT

- a copy of which I found here to buy: 

http://www.basis-buch.de/main-173503.html

WRT the TLG. I read the licence in detail and bluntly said, they have no leg to stand upon to deny us using the texts: 

They already allowed us to do what we want to do on the base of the licence - even if they get now cold feet on direct questioning. That said, at least Schmidts edition is now public domain anyway and unless there are DMCA-restrictions everyone can copy it out of there anyway.  And outside of DMCA -alike legislation only the public domain-ness woudl appliy anyway.But IANAL etc.

Wrt Latte/Hansen- I am not sure how far Latte's work would constitute an original work in its own right - I presume it does - but again the TLG licence does allow text extraction for scholarly work which is non-commercial.

Peter

 




-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Datum: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:23:03 -0700
Von: "Troy A. Griffitts" <scribe at crosswire.org>
An: SWORD Developers\' Collaboration Forum <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
Betreff: Re: [sword-devel] Hesychius

> Peter,
> 	Thank you for your time and info.  We have an ongoing dialog with UCI 
> regarding the use of the data from TLG.  They have denied our request 
> twice, but I am hoping a detailed third plea might solicit sympathy.
> 
> 	-Troy.
> 
> 
> 
> Peter von Kaehne wrote:
> > The TLG has though also the older edition by Schmidt which should be by
> now public domain as it is 1861
> > 
> > Peter
> > 
> > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > Datum: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:59:02 +0100
> > Von: "Peter von Kaehne" <refdoc at gmx.net>
> > An: SWORD Developers\' Collaboration Forum <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
> > Betreff: Re: [sword-devel] Hesychius
> > 
> >> The TLG indeed contains parts of the Hesychius - Latte's work only.
> >>
> >> Hansen's work is published on paper only in Germany. Electronic copies
> are
> >> not available.
> >>
> >> The TLG licence of the text is so that the work might be possible to
> >> integrate - ie.e. commecial scholarly tools making use of teh whole
> text are
> >> forbidden but crosswire might be possible.
> >>
> >> HTH
> >>
> >> Peter 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> >> Datum: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 16:38:36 -0700
> >> Von: "Troy A. Griffitts" <scribe at crosswire.org>
> >> An: sword-devel at crosswire.org
> >> Betreff: [sword-devel] Hesychius
> >>
> >>> If anyone has the time to research where we can find an electronic
> copy 
> >>> of Hesychius' Greek Lexicon, your efforts would be extremely valuable
> to
> >>> me right now.  I believe the TLG has a copy of it, but I currently
> don't
> >>> have easy access to the TLG.  Thanks in advance.
> >>>
> >>> 	-Troy.
> >>>
> >>>
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