[sword-devel] Please vote for Sun to fix a Java bug

[Daniel Blake]

Make that 52. :-)

DM Smith wrote:
> Thanks for all of you who have voted. We are at 50 votes. If you  
> haven't voted, please do. Turns out this is a request for  
> enahancement (RFE), so it needs in excess of 87 votes to make it to  
> the top 25. Personally, I'd like to see more than that. Closer to 100.
>
> The links are later in the message, but here they are again:
> The issue to vote on (link is on the left on the page):
> http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4646993
>
> to register to vote:
> https://softwarereg.sun.com/registration/developer/en_US/new_user
>
> On Dec 14, 2006, at 5:08 AM, Johan van der Lingen wrote:
>
>   
>> notice that you can vote three times on the same bug!
>>
>> (not to be rude, but are any of these bugs being fixed? I saw some  
>> filed on
>> 2002 and even 1997 and all have status "in progress")
>>
>> Beautiful Blessings on this day,
>>
>> Johan
>>
>>
>> On Thursday 14 December 2006 06:31, DM Smith wrote:
>>     
>>> Troy,
>>> 	We give the user the ability to select a font for displaying
>>> modules. We do need to allow per module preferences, including font.
>>> But that is not the problem here. The problem is that menus, buttons,
>>> dialogs and so forth all use a "system" font, named Lucida xxx. This
>>> is a built in font.
>>>
>>> 	From what I understand of the problem, Farsi uses an Arabic script
>>> with a few additions. The fundamental problem is that some glyphs are
>>> missing and a few others don't connect to their neighbors properly.
>>> The missing glyphs are akin to having 'I' be missing.
>>>
>>> 	I agree that it is not reasonable to expect that every language is
>>> supported, but Sun is responsive to voting. And the work is not that
>>> big an undertaking. They just need a bit of prodding.
>>>
>>> 	To solve it in the application is messy, but unless Sun fixes the
>>> font, we might not have a choice.
>>>
>>> 	Interestingly, the font is correct on MacOSX.
>>>
>>> 	The problem with Hebrew is a bit different. If UTF-8 characters are
>>> fully composed (letter and points combined into a single UTF-8 char)
>>> then it is likely that the character is missing. But if the points
>>> are following the letter, the composition of that character looks
>>> bad. This is futher compounded by the ascenders and descenders being
>>> clipped or drawn outside of the line of text. But having worked on
>>> FlashCards, I know you know all this.
>>>
>>> 	Farsi is different because it does not combine characters with
>>> accents to form a glyph (i.e. no accents) And it is all rendered
>>> within the text line. And it is different in that it joins adjacent
>>> letters in specific ways.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> 	DM
>>>
>>> On Dec 13, 2006, at 11:37 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>>>       
>>>> DM, I've found java doesn't render Hebrew well at all either.  I
>>>> wouldn't expect them to ship a font that renders perfect in all
>>>> languages.  That alone would be a huge undertaking.  Have you
>>>> considered
>>>> giving the user the option to select a font to use with a module?
>>>>
>>>> 	-Troy.
>>>>
>>>> DM Smith wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> If you are not aware, Peter von Kaehne and some members of the
>>>>> Glasgow Iranian Church are working on translating BibleDesktop into
>>>>> Farsi (also known as Persian). This is a common language of Iran.
>>>>>
>>>>> Several things are coming together:
>>>>> 1) Bible Desktop is being translated into Farsi.
>>>>> 2) Farsi Bibles are being turned into Sword Modules. Check the beta
>>>>> module at:
>>>>> 	http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModDisp.jsp?
>>>>> beta=true&tester=true&modType=Bibles
>>>>> 3) Bible Desktop can be run from a CD or USB drive without  
>>>>> installing
>>>>> Java on the host computer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Together this provides an excellent opportunity to help the Farsi
>>>>> speaking churches in their evangelistic outreach.
>>>>>
>>>>> But there is a problem and you can help. And you don't need to be a
>>>>> programmer.
>>>>>
>>>>> This language uses a right to left script and Java's Lucida font is
>>>>> incomplete in it's support of Farsi. There is an open bug report  
>>>>> for
>>>>> it. If you register at Sun you can vote that this be fixed. It is
>>>>> really suprising that the Sun folk won't take the time to fix a few
>>>>> entries in the font, but they respond to "votes".
>>>>>
>>>>> In the top 25 bugs the 25-th bug has 37 votes. Perhaps we can get a
>>>>> hundred or so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is the link to the bug report:
>>>>> http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4646993
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is a link to register to vote:
>>>>> https://softwarereg.sun.com/registration/developer/en_US/new_user
>>>>>
>>>>> In His Service,
>>>>> 	DM Smith
>>>>>
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