[sword-devel] Re: [jsword-devel] Bible Desktop Comments

[Daniel Glassey]

This debate should apply to sword in general as we need a good bug
tracker there.

Another one to throw in is roundup which looks like it has a good email
interface as well as the webgui
http://roundup.sourceforge.net/

Regards,
Daniel

On Sat, 2004-08-28 at 23:38, Mark Goodwin wrote: 
> Well, my quick play ended up being not so quick.
> 
> I got it working.. kinda...
> 
> I spent a couple of minutes looking into invoking PHP via a CGI
> wrapper before I noticed that there is support for invoking PHP from a
> servlet.  Perfect, I thought.
> 
> I managed to build a version of PHP4 with servlet API support, and got
> a Tomcat instance up and running PHP.  Then I got PHP talking away
> happily to PostgreSQL, and got phpbt running happily over the top. 
> Saw enough to think it looks like a nice system.
> 
> Unfortunately, this is were things went a bit wrong.  Turns out the
> servlet support in PHP4 is experimental and is no longer supported
> (joy of joys).  After a few requests, PHP dies and brings the entire
> servlet container down with it.
> 
> Note to all you free software developers out there; If your product
> has some fancy feature thats experimental, broken and unsupported, it
> might be nice to document the fact somewhere.
> 
> So, I'm back to wondering about invoking PHP from CGIs...
> 
> I may have another look late next week.  I'll see how I'm doing for spare time.
> 
> Failing that, it's back to Scarab.
> 
> MarkG
> 
> On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 19:40:04 +0100, Mark Goodwin <goodwinster at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hmm.
> > 
> > The little light in my head goes on, and I remember the cgi-servlet in tomcat...
> > 
> > I'll have a quick play.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 12:37:55 +0000, Davy Mitchell
> > <daftspaniel at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Another option may be phpBugTracker
> > > http://www.latedecember.com/hosted/phpbt/
> > >
> > > I am using it for the live CD project and it is very easy to set up and has
> > > plenty of features. It was created as a reaction to some of the
> > > overcomplicated 'solutions'.
> > >
> > > Peace,
> > > Davy


On Sat, 2004-08-28 at 21:00, Eric Galluzzo wrote:
> On Sat, 2004-08-28 at 04:02, Joe Walker wrote:
> > I think we need a better bug tracker than bugs.txt, because I bet my
> > edits will crash with yours, and because leading up to 1.0  it will
> > become important that we can prioritize our work.
> > 
> > Options I can think of:
> > - Install bugzilla at crosswire
> > - Install scarab at crosswire
> > - Install jira at crosswire (http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/)
> > - Use the bugzilla that we have at sourceforge There are 3 SF projects
> > that we have, ProjectB, J-Sword (not set up by me, not even sure if
> > I'm an admin) and BibleDesktop (unused other that to book the name)
> > - Try to get an account at tigris.org or java.net to use their
> > instance of Scarab.
> > - Find someone willing to host Jira for us.
> > 
> > My experience of buzilla/scarab/jira is between small and
> > non-existent. I've setup bugzilla and scarab at work. Bugzilla is easy
> > on Linux, Scarab is somewhat harder.
> > 
> > The Scarab UI is probably better than the Buzilla one, and from the
> > Jira demo, it is way ahead of both of them.
> 
> We've used both Bugzilla and Scarab, and we now use Jira (for some
> open-source projects that our company has created).  Bugzilla's default
> UI is bad (although it can be made prettier -- see, e.g.
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/), and it's not Java-friendly (and thus kinda
> hard to install).  Scarab has bad "social" problems -- e.g. it's been in
> "beta" for ages, and while new features are added pretty frequently, the
> developers refuse to fix obvious bugs and shortcomings ("yes, we know
> that's been there for two years -- we don't care, you fix it!") and
> routinely flame other developers and users.
> 
> Jira is free to open-source projects, and has a nice UI.  Also, the
> developers seem to be pretty friendly.  It's pure Java, so is very easy
> to set up (just a war file); the configuration is pretty easy too.
> 
>     - Eric