JSword was Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

[Daniel Glassey]

Guys,
I guess this needs advertised a bit better but there is already work 
going on on sword for java - JSword

http://www.crosswire.org/jsword/index.jsp

See http://www.crosswire.org/jsword/devt.jsp if you would like to get 
 involved

Regards,
Daniel

On 12 Mar 2003 at 13:31, Costas I. Stergiou sent forth the message:


> Actually, my full time job is java dev and it is really my
> favorite language for many reasons.
> Well, the reason I would
> not suggest java is because it is slow in the GUI, and does not provide
> a real windows look and feel. All the Java GUI programs I have used are
> indeed a bit slow and out of the windows feel. Also the JVM is not
> standard within windows. It would have been much easier for me to
> do my own work in Java (and I would have done in half the time propably)
> but I think that every language is good at some stuff and windows GUI
> is not what Java is for. I think that if you compare a native win GUI
> with any Java GUI (look, responsiveness, etc) you will agree that the
> diferrences are quite noteable.
> 
> Costas
> 
> On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Chris wrote:
> 
> > Costas I. Stergiou wrote:
> >
> > >Some months ago I started on a software for personal use that would
> > >help in bible study. Since my best knowledge is in Java (5 years now)
> > >I started the implementation with it. Very soon I realized the (obvious)
> > >fact that Java is NOT for the Desktop.
> > >
> >
> > Why? My full time job is writing Java desktop (gui) software.
> >
> >
> > >I thought of VB (where I also have
> > >experience) but I quickly dropped the idea since the code it
> > >produces is really slow. I ended up with Delphi (since it is really
> > >easier than C++) and now i have made a first version of a windows
> > >software for bible study. One of the reasons I didn't go with some
> > >of the already existing software is because none of these are quite
> > >good at searching/handling greek text (I am Greek) and none of these
> > >had a modern Greek translation which is the one most commonly used
> > >here in Greece. Also personal notes was really important and no sw
> > >gave real significance to that issue.
> > >
> > >I am married with one child, and my responsibilities leave my with
> > >few time to work on this project. I would be really happy though if
> > >I could help anyhow with this idea. I have recently put up a site
> > >with the software which (unfortunately?) is in greek, though I have
> > >made an english version of the software. If anyone would like to
> > >check it out here is the link for the english version of the
> > >software: http://www.theword.gr/bin/theword-en-0.99-full.exe
> > >
> > >I would be really happy if I could help out here in any way, either by
> > >giving the code, some ideas on the platform or anything else I
> > >could help with. I could also give some ideas about the Java platform
> > >since it is my everyday work for years now.
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >Costas
> > >(once more, excuse me for my bad english)
> > >
> > >
> > >On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Chris wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>Jason Turner wrote:
> > >>
> > >>Personally I'd rather see a Java version than .NET.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>So, to get to my point, I was considering writing a new UI in .NET. However,
> > >>>.NET cannot utilize native C++ libraries. It can use Managed C++, C#, ActiveX
> > >>>DLL's and native C libraries. Since I cannot use the Sword API as it stands,
> > >>>I was considering reimplementing a subset of it in .NET, and then building
> > >>>the UI on top of that. Of course releasing the whole thing under the GPL.
> > >>>
> > >>>So, I'm looking for comments. Does anyone have any other suggestions? Is there
> > >>>anything that I have missed? Should I take a closer look at Diatheke or
> > >>>ActiveDiatheke? Is someone else already working on a new Windows client?
> > >>>
> > >>>Thanks.
> > >>>
> > >>>Jason Turner
> > >>>
> > >>>On Monday 10 March 2003 09:27 pm, David Trotz wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>No the windows version does not allow this. Certain versions of the bible
> > >>>>will automatically break the paragraph into seperate lines per verse, but
> > >>>>other than that the answer is no. Sorry. It may be added someday. David
> > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>> From: Christopher Frazier
> > >>>> To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
> > >>>> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 1:52 PM
> > >>>> Subject: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I've been looking everywhere for this, and since I haven't found the
> > >>>> archive to the lists, I guess I have to ask it here:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> How do you view the Bible text one verse per line in Sword for
> > >>>> Windows?!?  BibleTime does this in an obvious way, but I cannot figure
> > >>>> this out at all in Windows.  Does the program do this at all?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> TIA!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Chris