[sword-devel] Web Interface

Sat, 22 Feb 2003 18:45:59 EST

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In a message dated 2/22/2003 12:57:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
eekaikko@mail.student.oulu.fi writes:

> As far as I know there are no text based browsers which support javascript 
> at 
> the moment.

Does those text browser support UTF-8, Greek and Hebrew?

> 
> Some people use a text mode browser through text terminal connection (in 
> universities etc.) Some people don't even have a choice.

Again, Does those text browser support UTF-8, Greek and Hebrew?

> 
> Some people like to switch javascript off because of security and popup 
> windows.
> 
> Probably all needed UI stuff can be made with just normal html without 
> javascript.

As I said before, this is a feature, compatability trade off game. You can 
always use html 3.2 to implement the UI and what will you got is good 
compatability and less feature. 

And there are WIN-WIN solution out there. We can make more than one 
implementation of the UI by using different selector in the GET URL to 
select. There are no need to be - a "you win I loss " or "I win you loss" 
situration. However, of course, support multiple version of browser is always 
a challenge. Not sure how to support Hebrew display for those text base 
browser. Does those text browser build in Bi-Di ordering? Can they display 
Biblical Greek and Biblical Hebrew? Does php support Bi-Di ordering on the 
server side so you can convert the Hebrew from Logical order to Visual order 
on the php before send to those text browser?

Netscape start to have Hebrew support since Nsetcape 6.2 althought we still 
have some selection bug there. 
If we are going to display OT Hebrew, it better to assume the brower could 
support Logical order Hebrew. It is not fun to add Bi-Di ordering code to the 
server side. 

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=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/2003 12:57:40 PM Pacific Stand=
ard Time, eekaikko@mail.student.oulu.fi writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT=
: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">As far as I know there are no t=
ext based browsers which support javascript at <BR>
the moment.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT  COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-=
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</FONT><FONT  COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2=
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ort UTF-8, Greek and Hebrew?</FONT><FONT  COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGRO=
UND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">=
<BR>
</FONT><FONT  COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2=
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT=
: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BR>
Some people use a text mode browser through text terminal connection (in <BR=
>
universities etc.) Some people don't even have a choice.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT>=
<FONT  COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=
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<BR>
</FONT><FONT  COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2=
 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Again, Does those text brows=
er support UTF-8, Greek and Hebrew?</FONT><FONT  COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"=
BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT=
: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BR>
Some people like to switch javascript off because of security and popup <BR>
windows.<BR>
<BR>
Probably all needed UI stuff can be made with just normal html without <BR>
javascript.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BR>
As I said before, this is a feature, compatability trade off game. You can a=
lways use html 3.2 to implement the UI and what will you got is good compata=
bility and less feature. <BR>
<BR>
And there are WIN-WIN solution out there. We can make more than one implemen=
tation of the UI by using different selector in the GET URL to select. There=
 are no need to be - a "you win I loss " or "I win you loss" situration. How=
ever, of course, support multiple version of browser is always a challenge.=20=
Not sure how to support Hebrew display for those text base browser. Does tho=
se text browser build in Bi-Di ordering? Can they display Biblical Greek and=
 Biblical Hebrew? Does php support Bi-Di ordering on the server side so you=20=
can convert the Hebrew from Logical order to Visual order on the php before=20=
send to those text browser?<BR>
<BR>
Netscape start to have Hebrew support since Nsetcape 6.2 althought we still=20=
have some selection bug there. <BR>
If we are going to display OT Hebrew, it better to assume the brower could s=
upport Logical order Hebrew. It is not fun to add Bi-Di ordering code to the=
 server side. <BR>
<BR>
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