[sword-devel] New Windows SWORD GUI.html
Chris Little
sword-devel@crosswire.org
Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:24:59 -0700 (MST)
Jason or Daniel or someone else who is actually working on these should
probably speak up and give an authoritative answer on teh subject, but I
believe these two projects are merged (into the program Bible Study at
the first URL).
--Chris
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Martin Gruner wrote:
> Simon,
>
> there are at least 2 more wxwindows Sword frontend in the works:
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/christiangame
> http://spatha.sourceforge.net/product/
>
> I wonder if people would be interested in joining forces there.
>
> Martin
>
> Am Dienstag, 9. Dezember 2003 20:42 schrieb Simon Lagendijk:
> > Hi Lynn Alan, and the rest of the Sword-devel list reading this,
> >
> > Thanks for your reply. I think you've got a really good point by making
> > bible software that also runs on a poor mans computer...
> >
> > One of the features for our new bible software is the possibility to
> > execute a command from the command prompt of Linux or Windows, like for
> > example "Bible.exe -p Mat.1" prints Matthew 1 on the screen (just plain
> > text output on the screen, which can be scrolled in by piping the output
> > to more). I only have to figure out if there is a GNU C++ Compiler
> > available for DOS, read some info about the differences between
> > programming for a 32bit and a 16bit PC, and get 2 old machines somewhere
> > (a 386 and a 0088 or 286 or something like that, with really small
> > memory, like 4MB for the 386, and less than 1MB for the 286).
> >
> > I don't think that feature will replace the need of a program like the
> > LCDBible, because we're planning to use wxWindows as GUI framework,
> > which isn't optimalized for running on slow computers. But, sharing
> > source code, where possible, would be nice!
> >
> > As said before, I don't know lot's about the differences between 32bit
> > and 16bit programming, so maybe the following question will be extremely
> > stupid (forgive me if it is). But can the code of the Sword Engine be
> > compiled to run on a 16bit pc, like for example a 286?
> >
> > My friend and I are currently working on some documentation about the
> > design (a simple class-diagram and a description of each class in text),
> > I hope to have that finished at the end of this week. I think a
> > discussion about design is easier when there is a draft design available.
> >
> >
> > With kind regards,
> >
> > Simon
> >
> > PS> I just tested your LCDBible, it's really fast!
> >
> > Lynn Allan wrote:
> > > Hello Simon,
> > >
> > > I would be *VERY* interested in participating in this. I have drafted
> > > a requirements/design document for the radically simplified "LcdBible":
> > >
> > > L)ittle C)hildren D)evoted to the Bible (could use some help with the
> > > "D" :-) Would correspond to the NIrV as far as being oriented to young
> > > readers.
> > >
> > > L)owest C)ommon D)enominator Bible software:
> > > Targetted to non-computer literate missionaries using obsolete
> > > computers (Pentium 233, 32 meg mem, 800*600 res, 1 gig hd, broken
> > > CD-ROM, unreliable 28.8 kbps modem, LcdBibleSetup.exe with WEB/NT fits
> > > on 1.44meg floppy, available by Christmas Eve, 2003)
> > >
> > > A very preliminary working prototype with nsis install package is
> > > available at:
> > > http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/lcdbible/LcdBibleSetup.exe
> > > For now, the 400kb download includes the LcdBible.exe and the WEB NT.
> > > It uses a "plug-in" subset of the Sword-Api that only uses a
> > > simplified RawVerse and CanonVersifier to read verses from
> > > modules/texts/rawtext/web/nt and nt.vss (CanonVersifier is a possible
> > > parent or 'contained' class for VerseKey).
> > >
> > > The extent of the gui is using a single combo-box to select a specific
> > > Book from the WEB-NT. Then all verses from the first chapter of that
> > > book are shown (ie, Matt 1:1-25, Mark 1:1-45, Luke 1:1-80, etc.). The
> > > statically linked LcdBible.exe file is 32kb, including those calls to
> > > the simplified Sword-Api.
> > >
> > > Think of the 0.01c prototype as strictly a POC (Proof of Concept) that
> > > CanonVersifier logic can put together a page of verses. From this POC,
> > > I claim that LcdPrototype is feasible, if this effort is blessed by
> > > His Holy Spirit.
> > >
> > > http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/lcdbible/LcdBible_src_0_01c.zip
> > > Source code, including:
> > > * project that puts all code in executable (no lib or dll)
> > > * project with .dll that builds swordlib_vc6.lib and swordlib_vc6.dll.
> > > Then LcdBible.exe uses swordlib_vc6.dll
> > >
> > > * CanonVersifier.cpp and CanonVersifier.h
> > > * script for nsis-198 installer
> > > * modified RawVerse.cpp and RawVerse.h (includes
> > > RemoveMostTagsAndExtraSpace(char* buf)
> > > *Let's Discuss*
> > > Lynn
> > > l.allan@att.net <mailto:l.allan@att.net>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [sword-devel] New Windows SWORD GUI
> > >
> > > *Simon Lagendijk *sword-devel@crosswire.org
> > > <mailto:sword-devel%40crosswire.org>
> > > /Sun, 07 Dec 2003 00:19:43 +0100/
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> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >Hi all,
> > >
> > >A friend an I have the idea of making a new Bible tool, mainly aimed at
> > >Windows users, because for Linux there are 2 nice Sword-based tools
> > >available. We want to the program to run on at least Windows and Linux.
> > >The code will be released under the GNU licence (or another OpenSource
> > >licence, I don't know the differences between all those licences for
> > >OpenSource software, so I'd have to figure out that first, before
> > >choosing one).
> > >
> > >Are there any design-diagrams of Sword available, I mean Data Flow
> > >Diagrams or UML or something like that? That maybe would save us some
> > >time in the design phase...
> > >
> > >I don't know if the auhors of Sword for Windows, BibleTime and
> > >GnomeSword are reading this, but if they do: Do you mind if we use some
> > >idea's of your GUI for our program (I'm not very good at designing User
> > >Interfaces)?
> > >
> > >Is it possible to compile the Sword Engine in a DLL?
> > >
> > >We are searching for some OpenSource software development tools. I think
> > >the most likely to use are the GNU C++ Compiler (MinGW) with the
> > >wxWindows framework, but I haven't worked with wxWindows before, so
> > >please can someone tell us if it can easely be used for the task we want
> > >(i.e. creating a professional looking, multiplatform GUI)?
> > >
> > >We also want to support OSIS documents (not only Sword-modules
> > >containing OSIS markup, but real OSIS documents). Is OSIS 2.0, as
> > >described on http://www.bibletechnologies.net/, the latest version? Will
> > >future releases of the OSIS specification be backwards compatible?
> > >
> > >Some other features that are on our wishlist for the new program are:
> > >- Exporters (PDF/RTF/PlainText)
> > >- Online updating of document library (just like Sword for Windows),
> > >supporting Sword modules, OSIS documents, and TheoDoc sources
> > >- Possibility to run from CD, without any installing needed
> > >
> > >If you have any ideas, suggestions, comments, etc, please let us know!
> > >
> > >In Christ,
> > >
> > >Simon
> > >
> > >PS> I have dropped the OSISEditor project I was working on. I tried to
> > >use the RichTextBox as an OSIS edit component, but I didn't get it to do
> > >what I wanted it to do...
> > >
> > >
> > >
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