[sword-devel] What is going on here???
Kevin Montgomery
sword-devel@crosswire.org
Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:14:46 +0100
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although I finished mid-sentence. :-(
I was going to say ... although obviously not listed in with the bible
texts. I take it that it is offered as a commentary or similar?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org
[mailto:owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org]On Behalf Of Kevin Montgomery
Sent: 03 September 2002 11:05
To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
Subject: RE: [sword-devel] What is going on here???
I have to salute this statement as it resonates very strongly with me.
One thing though, I have found the Quran useful when talking to Muslims
who have taken an interest in Jesus
so I would be happy to have it as an additional text although.
Regards
Kevin
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From: owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org
[mailto:owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org]On Behalf Of Avihai.H
Sent: 03 September 2002 11:37
To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
Subject: [sword-devel] What is going on here???
Shalom to everyone :o)
I have been reading the things people wrote about "Doctrinal
Statements",
What people feel about it, and some comment from non-Christian.
I have a question… What is the purpose in doctrinal statements???
Don't we know what believing in Christ is all about?
I understand that we see something's differently, but why???
We can't change one another, that is the work of the Holy Spirit, if we
let him
do so and if we do our share. All we can do is to be faithful to our
Lord and
letting the Holy Spirit touch others through us, and not being self
centered people.
Why is a person, and a believer a specially, feels the need to explain
himself
or his way of thinking to others such eagerly? Is he trying to convince
himself
by convincing others??? I believe that a believer that is TRULY guided
by the
Spirit owes no explanation to anyone!
The Sword is supposed to be a learning tool, so I guess that anyone that
has
It would use it in a way that he/she feels right about it.
Being a Jew that believes in Jesus/Yeshua I don't think that the Sword
should
Have the Quran module. The Sword is a tool for those who believe in
Jesus
and follow him. It could be a tool for non-Christian so they may come
to know Christ.
So, we can add modules of Prophecies and matters alike.
Those of you that don't believe in Jesus, you may use the Sword for the
OT, but
You should find another software for anything beyond.
As for our self, Christians, don't you see how the devil tries to ruin
what we do?
The Sword can (and it is) be a blessing to many, so why let the devil
take it to other places?
As for debating, it just doesn't fit to how we supposed to be.
I call you all, please leave those issues alone, and let us focus in the
good things that edify us
and the things that will make us closer on to another instead of letting
Satan put a Sword between us!
with Christ's love,
Avihai.H
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finished mid-sentence. :-(</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D525511311-03092002><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
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say ... although obviously not listed in with the bible texts. I take it =
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is offered as a commentary or similar?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org =
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Behalf Of </B>Kevin Montgomery<BR><B>Sent:</B> 03 September 2002=20
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[sword-devel] What is going on here???<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D931500011-03092002><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I =
have to=20
salute this statement as it resonates very strongly with=20
me.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D931500011-03092002><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>One thing=20
though, I have found the Quran useful when talking to Muslims who have =
taken=20
an interest in Jesus</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D931500011-03092002><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>so I would be=20
happy to have it as an additional text although.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D931500011-03092002><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Regards</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D931500011-03092002><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Kevin</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org=20
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</B>Avihai.H<BR><B>Sent:</B> 03 September 2002 11:37<BR><B>To:</B>=20
sword-devel@crosswire.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [sword-devel] What is =
going on=20
here???<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
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face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Shalom to everyone :o)</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>I have been reading the things =
people wrote=20
about "Doctrinal Statements",</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>What people feel about it, and =
some comment=20
from non-Christian.</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
TEXT-ALIGN: left"><o:p><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>I have a question=85 What is the =
purpose in=20
doctrinal statements???</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Don't we know what believing in =
Christ is all=20
about?</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>I understand that we see =
something's=20
differently, but why???</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>We can't change one another, that =
is the work=20
of the Holy Spirit, if we let him</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3> do so and if we do our =
share.=20
</FONT><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>All we can do is to =
be faithful=20
to our Lord and</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3> letting the Holy Spirit =
touch others=20
through us, and not being self centered people.</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
TEXT-ALIGN: left"><o:p><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Why is a person, and a believer a =
specially,=20
feels the need to explain himself </FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>or his way of thinking to others =
such eagerly?=20
Is he trying to convince himself</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3> by convincing others??? I =
believe that a=20
believer that is TRULY guided by the</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3> Spirit owes no explanation =
to=20
anyone!</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
TEXT-ALIGN: left"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3></FONT></SPAN> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>The Sword is supposed to be a =
learning tool,=20
so I guess that anyone that has</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>It would use it in a way that =
he/she feels=20
right about it.</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
TEXT-ALIGN: left"><o:p><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Being a Jew that believes in =
Jesus/Yeshua I=20
don't think that the Sword should</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Have the Quran module. The Sword =
is a tool for=20
those who believe in Jesus</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3> and follow him. It could be =
a tool for=20
non-Christian so they may come to know Christ.</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>So, we can add modules of =
Prophecies and=20
matters alike. </FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
TEXT-ALIGN: left"><o:p><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Those of you that don't believe in =
Jesus, you=20
may use the Sword for the OT, but</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>You should find another software =
for anything=20
beyond.</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
TEXT-ALIGN: left"><o:p><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
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face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>As for our self, Christians, don't =
you see how=20
the devil tries to ruin what we do?</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>The Sword can (and it is) be a =
blessing to=20
many, so why let the devil take it to other places?</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
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face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>As for debating, it just doesn't =
fit to how we=20
supposed to be.</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
TEXT-ALIGN: left"><o:p><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3> </FONT></o:p></P>
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style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; =
TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>I call you all, please leave those =
issues=20
alone, and let us focus in the good things that edify us </FONT></P>
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face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>and the things that will make us =
closer on to=20
another instead of letting Satan put a Sword between us!</FONT></P>
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