[sword-devel] Re: Copyright, profiteering, and the Great Commission
Pergamum
sword-devel@crosswire.org
Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:58:44 -0500
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First off, I'd like to clear up that I am NOT against a publisher's =
right to charge money for selling bibles or whatnot. I am a greedy =
capitalist. I understand how market forces work. You must pay for =
material, labor, production costs of the retail material, etc. As for =
the research and development in translations? It is all paid for by =
donations from Universities, Seminaries, Philanthropists, Archeological =
and Linguistic societies and other private sources so the arguments that =
Whichever Publishers is using about paying translators becomes moot . I =
am, again, not against them making money; merely against their arrogance =
in assuming intellectual ownership of the Word in the form of copyright. =
I contend that biblical copyright is an abuse of market forces in the =
most heinous manner. Furthermore, Mr. Burry, I find your statement to be =
rather offensive. But at the same time this attempt to mock the =
Scripture proves my point. If you look at the original verse in =
question: Matthew 22:19-21,=20
19"Shew me the tribute money." And they brought unto him a penny.
20And he saith unto them, "Whose is this image and superscription?" =20
21They say unto him, "Caesar's." Then saith he unto them, "Render =
therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the =
things that are God's.",
we see that Jesus is addressing the picture on the coin and saying that =
governmental concerns are just that; governmental. Also, conversely it =
means that church concerns are exactly that: church concerns. =
Unfortunately what we see today is Caesar's attempt to have that which =
is GOD's rendered unto him in the form of taking the Word of GOD, in =
which the image and superscription of the text is of Christ Jesus, and =
overlaying of a copyright in the image of Whichever Publishers with the =
official recognition of Caesar in the form of a number assigned by the =
United States Copyright Office. So I ask you to please consider this: =
Does the Word of GOD belong to the copyright holders? Or does it belong =
to GOD? Whose image and superscription is on your copy of GOD's Word?
In closing I'd like to apologize to you David (or anyone else reading =
this) if my comments seemed a bit pointed or like a hostile personal =
attack. They were not meant to be such. They were however from a hostile =
point of view toward the blatant theft of GOD's Word in the form of =
copyright.
In Christ Jesus,
Pergamum
----- Original Message -----=20
From: David Burry <dburry@tagnet.org>
To: <sword-devel@crosswire.org>
Sent: Thursday, 06 July, 2000 03:33
Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Re: Copyright and STRONGS
> Render unto the copyright holders the things that belong to the =
copyright=20
> holders, and unto God the things that are God's.
>=20
> Dave
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>First off, I'd like to clear up that I am =
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or=20
whatnot. I am a greedy capitalist. I understand how market forces =
work. You=20
must pay for material, labor, production costs of the retail material, =
etc. As=20
for the research and development in translations? It is all paid for by=20
donations from Universities, Seminaries, Philanthropists, Archeological =
and=20
Linguistic societies and other private sources so the arguments =
that=20
Whichever Publishers is using about paying translators becomes moot . I =
am,=20
again, not against them making money; merely against their arrogance in =
assuming=20
intellectual ownership of the Word in the form of copyright. I contend =
that=20
biblical copyright is an abuse of market forces in the =
most heinous=20
manner. Furthermore, Mr. Burry, </FONT><FONT size=3D2>I find your =
statement=20
to be rather offensive. But at the same time this attempt to mock the =
Scripture=20
proves my point. If you look at the original verse in question: Matthew=20
22:19-21, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT color=3D#0000ff></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT color=3D#0000ff>19</FONT><FONT =
color=3D#000000>"</FONT><FONT=20
color=3D#800000><FONT color=3D#ff0000>Shew me the tribute =
money.</FONT><FONT=20
color=3D#000000>"</FONT> </FONT>And they brought unto him a =
penny.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT color=3D#0000ff>20</FONT>And he saith unto =
them, <FONT=20
color=3D#ff0000><FONT color=3D#000000>"</FONT></FONT><FONT =
color=3D#ff0000>Whose is=20
this image and superscription?<FONT =
color=3D#000000>"</FONT> =20
</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT color=3D#0000ff>21</FONT>They say unto him, =
<FONT=20
color=3D#000000>"</FONT>Caesar's.<FONT color=3D#000000>" </FONT>Then =
saith he unto=20
them, <FONT color=3D#ff0000><FONT color=3D#000000>"</FONT></FONT><FONT=20
color=3D#ff0000>Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are =
Caesar's; and=20
unto God the things that are God's.</FONT><FONT=20
color=3D#000000>"</FONT>,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>we see that Jesus is addressing the picture on the =
coin and=20
saying that governmental concerns are just that; governmental. Also, =
conversely=20
it means that church concerns are exactly that: church concerns. =
Unfortunately=20
what we see today is <EM>Caesar's</EM> attempt to have that which is=20
<STRONG>GOD's </STRONG>rendered unto <STRONG>him </STRONG>in the form of =
taking=20
the Word of GOD, in which the image and superscription of the text is of =
Christ=20
Jesus, and overlaying of a copyright in the image of Whichever =
Publishers with=20
the official recognition of Caesar in the form of a number assigned by =
the=20
United States Copyright Office. So I ask you to please consider this: =
Does the=20
Word of GOD belong to the copyright holders? Or does it belong to GOD? =
Whose=20
image and superscription is on your copy of GOD's Word?</FONT><FONT =
size=3D2></DIV></FONT>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>In closing I'd like to apologize to you David (or =
anyone else=20
reading this) if my comments seemed a bit pointed or like a hostile =
personal=20
attack. They were not meant to be such. They were however from a =
hostile=20
point of view toward the blatant theft of GOD's Word in the form of=20
copyright.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>In Christ Jesus,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Pergamum</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>From: David Burry <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:dburry@tagnet.org">dburry@tagnet.org</A>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>To: <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org">sword-devel@crosswire.org</A>&g=
t;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Sent: Thursday, 06 July, 2000 03:33</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Re: Copyright and=20
STRONGS</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=3D2>> Render unto the copyright holders the =
things=20
that belong to the copyright <BR>> holders, and unto God the things =
that are=20
God's.<BR>> <BR>> Dave<BR></FONT></BODY></HTML>
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