[sword-devel] Dynamic Download first hack at .jsp

[Derek Neighbors]

Troy,

Very diplomatic response.  I am not against JSP.  Although your agruements
are void against PHP4 especially with the Zend engine.  Check out their list
archive at http://www.phpbuilder.com and search for JSP vs. and you will get
about 80 messages explaining a comparision between the two.

Quite informative.  I learned a lot about JSP, I did not know.  I am not
saying that JSP is not the way to go by any means.  It just looked as though
you were just starting to play with them, so I thought I would suggest PHP.
By no means do I want to start some massive off topic discussion.  I
appreciate the response. : )

Derek Neighbors
DFC, Inc.
http://developers.forchrist.com
dneighbors@forchrist.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org
> [mailto:owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org]On Behalf Of Troy A. Griffitts
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 1:07 PM
> To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Dynamic Download first hack at .jsp
>
>
> Hey Derek,
> 	Thanks for your suggestion.  I've heard about php (and have been
> impressed with it on sites like http://www.freshmeat.net).  I've been
> looking over their docs this morning and I think it is a really cool
> technology.  My motivations behind the choice for .jsp  are based in the
> following areas:
>
> 	o	It is not java-like.  It IS java.  I can use any
> existing class
> library including JDBC drivers and container libraries like JGL or any
> future work anyone else does in the Java world.
> 	o	I don't have to learn any new syntax, save a
> handful of markup tags,
> and I have visual IDEs like JBuilder for Solaris / Linux that can
> graphically debug and provide method and parameter completion on my
> objects (which is how I built the supporting classes for the
> ModDisp.jsp).
> 	o	JSPs are automatically compiled to multi-threaded
> servlets leaving no
> build burden on the developer; and
> 	o	although the first hit on the page after
> modification is slow due to
> the recompile, every subsequent hit is merely another thread running
> thru an already loaded servlet, making it considerably fast.
>
>
> Consider what this page is doing every time you hit it...  It searches
> thru all files found in the config directory, parsing 146 .conf files
> and creates a Map<String, <String, Map>> container with all entries.  I
> then use this object to enumerate all entries in the outside map
> (Sections) and grab information I need about the module.  I don't take
> advantage of any static classes, but I could instantiate an SWMgr (when
> the files are parsed) on first load and then for each subsequent load
> use this static class for each thread.  This would make things much
> faster, but we would loose the ability to update the modules and see the
> effect immediately (which, I'm not sure, is a very big deal).
>
> Hope this provides some justification in your mind of why we might want
> to use jsp's.  I know specific technologies easily become near to our
> hearts, so I don't expect you to say, "Of course!  It all make sense
> now." :)
>
> 	God's blessings,
> 		-Troy.
>
>
>
> Derek Neighbors wrote:
> >
> > Troy,
> >
> > I would suggest using PHP http://www.php.net instead of Java
> Server Pages.
> > They are much faster and MUCH MUCH easier to develop web related things
> > with.  Just a suggestion.  The syntax is pretty much identical to C++ so
> > there should be virtually zero learning curve.
> >
> > Just a suggestion.
> >
> > Derek Neighbors
> > DFC, Inc.
> > http://developers.forchrist.com
> > dneighbors@forchrist.com
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org
> > > [mailto:owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org]On Behalf Of Troy A. Griffitts
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 4:40 AM
> > > To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
> > > Subject: [sword-devel] Dynamic Download first hack at .jsp
> > >
> > >
> > > Ok, everyone, if you have time, check this out:
> > >
> > >       http://www.crosswire.org/sword/download2/
> > >
> > > This is a first hack at a jsp for dynamically building a page
> that will
> > > allow our end users to download modules right from the /pub/sword/raw
> > > repository.  It doesn't work yet, but it does read the repository and
> > > display info about all the modules that it finds.
> > >
> > > Source code is included as a link at the end of the page.
> > >
> > > Choose 'Common'
> > > Then either:
> > >       Texts / Translations
> > >
> > >       Commentaries
> > >
> > >       Lexicons / Bible
> > >       Dictionaries
> > >
> > >
> > > Comments, suggestions, help are appreciated.
> > >
> > >       g'nite,
> > >               -Troy.
> > >
>