[osis-core] unbalanced <q> elements

Todd Tillinghast osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
Tue, 20 Jan 2004 23:42:24 -0700


Patrick,

I looked at the text Chris is talking about and if we are going to
encode continuation marks at all (not simply claim they are a rendering
phenomenon that does not need to be encoded at all) then we need to
improve our current provision for continuation quote marks.

I can bring the printed text with me next week.

Todd

> -----Original Message-----
> From: osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:osis-core-
> admin@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Chris Little
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 11:35 PM
> To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
> Subject: Re: [osis-core] unbalanced <q> elements
> 
> Patrick,
> 
> On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Patrick Durusau wrote:
> 
> > Chris,
> >
> > Adding this in the bug list I am making for the Users Manual but
want to
> > make sure I understand the issues:
> >
> > 1. You want to indicate levels on continuation quotes? I thought
> > continuation quotes were just typography and not actual structure in
the
> > text? In other words, you could use <q> as a milestone and every
time
> > you pass a boundary where you want the continuation quote mark,
simply
> > insert one until you reach the other end.
> >
> > Do have a problem if you have multiple continuation quotes. Is that
the
> > issue?
> 
> Essentially, I want to represent what ABS has in their SFM version
> of the TEV.  They indicate single/double quotes.  Some of those are
> continuation quotes.  I want to indicate levels as a way of directing
the
> renderer to do either single or double quotes.
> 
> We can't use <q> for marking continuation quotes since we require
> sID/eID-type milestone elements to be balanced.  So we added the
cQuote
> type to the <milestone> element for continuation quotes--but there's
no
> way to indicate the level when there may be multiple levels of
quotation
> crossing boundaries.
> 
> > 2. What in the world is an unbalanced quote? Whether marked in the
text
> > not, are we talking about a quote or something that has a quote mark
for
> > some reason but may or may not be a quote?
> 
> It crops up in notes.  The note will have a catchWord element that
> reproduces a section of text including one of the quotation marks, but
not
> its mate.
> 
> > If you mean just rendering, couldn't you use a regular q element
type =
> > "x-unbalanced" and have your stylesheet only insert the leading
quote?
> 
> The only problem is that this would require allowing milestone
elements
> (of the sID/eID type) without corresponding elements with the same
> sID/eID.  I don't know whether allowing that is a good idea.
> 
> --Chris
> 
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