[osis-core] sidebars

[Patrick Durusau]

Todd,

Todd Tillinghast wrote:
> Patrick and Chris,
> 
> I don't think we should add "sidebar" at any point.  The notes (or other
> content that are not notes) that may be presented to the side should be
> encoded as a specific type of note using the already existing note
> types.  Where they get rendered is a matter of layout and presentation.
> 

Agree in terms of encoding modern texts, it is a matter of layout.

The harder question is when we reach manuscript markup, which we may 
very well leave alone, where it is important to record the presentation 
of the prior text, not necessarily to duplicate its layout in 
presentation but to record "the fact that" it was so presented.

Marginal notes (the equivalent of the modern side-bar) marked as such 
with their location keyed to a particular portion of text, alert someone 
doing analysis of the text as to what material was presented to the 
original reader of the text.

But, as I said, this is not an issue for modern texts, which really have 
no layout until we impose one with a stylesheet.

Hope you are having a great day!

Patrick


> It is possible that they could use the editions="study" attribute and
> value to indicate that these are notes that only apply in study editions
> and the render would know to put them to the side.  (worse would be
> editions="sidebar")
> 
> Todd
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:osis-core-
>>admin@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Durusau
>>Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 8:53 AM
>>To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
>>Subject: [osis-core] sidebars
>>
>>Chris,
>>
>>
>>>USFM provides an element for identifying material that will appear
>>
> in
> 
>>>a sidebar.  <div type="sidebar"> would be the obvious solution, but
>>>that is rather presentation-oriented.  Another solution would be to
>>>force users to decide what types of material they are presenting in
>>>sidebars (e.g. background notes) and to indicate that.
>>
>>If I had my preference, both type="sidebar" and type="x-sidebar" would
>>be fatal OSIS errors. ;-)
>>
>>Sidebars, as you know, are flow objects that are determined at the
> 
> time
> 
>>of rendering. I can imagine when we reach markup for manuscripts that
> 
> we
> 
>>will want to allow marking of the location of a note (and other
> 
> things)
> 
>>in the original and that will be abused when we make that possible.
>>
>>In terms of going into OSIS markup, would need to convert into
> 
> whatever
> 
>>elements are appropriate and select them with a stylesheet. I assume
>>this is something consistent to a particular edition and not notes of
>>the same kind can appear at the end of columns, as footnotes or as
>>sidebar notes?
>>
>>Hope you are having a great day!
>>
>>Patrick
>>
>>
>>--
>>Patrick Durusau
>>Director of Research and Development
>>Society of Biblical Literature
>>Patrick.Durusau@sbl-site.org
>>Chair, V1 - Text Processing: Office and Publishing Systems Interface
>>Co-Editor, ISO 13250, Topic Maps -- Reference Model
>>
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Patrick Durusau
Director of Research and Development
Society of Biblical Literature
Patrick.Durusau@sbl-site.org
Chair, V1 - Text Processing: Office and Publishing Systems Interface
Co-Editor, ISO 13250, Topic Maps -- Reference Model

Topic Maps: Human, not artificial, intelligence at work!