[osis-core] Selah

[Todd Tillinghast]

Patrick,

We could add either a <selah> element or a <discourseMarker
type="selah"> element.  The latter is more generic and provides for
options later on if the discourse marker becomes important.

If we are adding an element I hate to add an element as narrow as
<selah>.

Todd

> -----Original Message-----
> From: osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:osis-core-
> admin@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Durusau
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 5:09 AM
> To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
> Subject: Re: [osis-core] Selah
> 
> Chris,
> 
> I went back over the discouseMarker traffic and it turned out that no
> one wanted it, although for the sake of completeness, brother Todd did
> offer the following content model (should the element be adopted):
> 
> > Let <discorseMarker> be a child of anything that <divineName> is
> > currently a child of and let <discorseMarker> have the same children
as
> > <divineName>.  With the necessary accommodations for containing each
> > other.
> 
> He also noted we could settle this in August but I don't recall that
we
> ever reached the issue.
> 
> I think it is fair that our linguistic friends (Kees and Kirk) both
> agreed that it was too vague to be useful for linguistic markup.
> 
> So, with all that in mind, what shall we do with Selah?
> 
> Hope everyone is having a great day!
> 
> Patrick
> 
> Todd Tillinghast wrote:
> > Everything Chris said sounds very reasonable to me.
> >
> > Todd
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org
> >>[mailto:osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of
> >>Chris Little
> >>Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 3:27 PM
> >>To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
> >>Subject: Re: [osis-core] Selah
> >>
> >>
> >>Selah is a very common thing to mark though, suggesting that
> >>we ought to
> >>have a standard manner of indicating it. (And our position with
<seg>
> >>has always been that we won't use it for anything we
> >>designate ourselves.)
> >>
> >>General Bible Format and Lockman's markup both offer presentational
> >>"right justify" tags that are used exclusively for selah.  Perhaps
we
> >>need a special element for it, or it might be a type of
> >>another element
> >>(e.g. the proposed <discourseMarker> element).
> >>
> >>--Chris
> >>
> >>Patrick Durusau wrote:
> >>
> >>>Todd,
> >>>
> >>>Curious because the NRSV is not consistent.
> >>>
> >>>Look at Ps. 77,
> >>>
> >>>Selah, v. 3 separate line
> >>>
> >>>Selah v. 9 same line as other text
> >>>
> >>>Selah v. 15 same line as other text
> >>>
> >>>If I were doing line markup, I would just include it in a
> >>
> >>line and if
> >>
> >>>I
> >>>wanted to distinguish it, then use seg. Same for other
> >>
> >>container elements.
> >>
> >>>If the user wants to key off of it for special presentation, noting
> >>>that
> >>>in all cases it is justified to the right margin, need to
> >>
> >>enclose in <seg>.
> >>
> >>>Does that help?
> >>>
> >>>Hope you are having a great day!
> >>>
> >>>Patrick
> >>
> >>
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