[osis-core] type on <hi>

[Patrick Durusau]

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Todd,

Todd Tillinghast wrote:
> Patrick,
> 
> What is overline?
> 

See attached file, hard to do in ASCII email.


> It might be useful to add normal.  I can see a case where the source
> text is marked up so that <hi type="bold">text text text text <hi
> type="normal">normal text</hi> text text text</hi> might be natural.
> This implies that we allow nested <hi> elements.
> 
I would agree with normal.


> It would seem useful to add lighter.
> 

Not sure it is very meaningful.

> Problem: we are mixing types (font-style, font-variant, and
> text-decoration) into a single type.  Is this a cause of concern?
> 

Perhaps, but recall that the W3C separated out stuff like oblique on the 
theory that fonts with that presentation have oblique in their names. 
Really rank stuff.

It may have also been the proliferation problem. Why use one attribute 
when you can have a half a dozen or more? Bloats the standard and books 
on it.

The <hi> element is recording what is seen, so the distinctions that the 
W3C made for processing aren't really relevant.

Hope you are having a great day!

Patrick


> Todd
> 
> 
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:osis-core-
>>admin@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Durusau
>>Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 12:58 PM
>>To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
>>Subject: Re: [osis-core] type on <hi>
>>
>>Todd,
>>
>>Todd Tillinghast wrote:
>>
>>>We should check with CSS names that are already established and use
>>
> the
> 
>>>exact values adopted there (ex. Is it underline or underlined?).
>>>
>>
>>font-style: normal, italic, oblique
>>
>>font-variant: normal, small-caps
>>
>>font-weight: normal, bold, bolder, lighter (then a range 100 to 900 by
>>100's)
>>
>>text-decoration: underline, overline, line-through, blink
>>
>>Suggestion:
>>
>><xs:enumeration value="bold"/>
>><xs:enumeration value="illuminated"/>
>><xs:enumeration value="italic"/>
>><xs:enumeration value="line-through"/> (added)
>><xs:enumeration value="overline"/> (added)
>><xs:enumeration value="small-caps"/> (conformed to CSS)
>><xs:enumeration value="underline"/>
>>
>>And no, I will not be adding "blink!" ;-)
>>
>>Other suggestions?
>>
>>Hope you are having a great day!
>>
>>Patrick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>We might also find an obvious value we overlooked.
>>>
>>>I think "small caps" should be all one string like "smallCaps".  If
>>
> we
> 
>>>don't have white space we have the option to use these values in a
>>
> list
> 
>>>later on.
>>>
>>>Todd
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:osis-core-
>>>>admin@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Durusau
>>>>Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 8:07 AM
>>>>To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
>>>>Subject: [osis-core] type on <hi>
>>>>
>>>>Greetings!
>>>>
>>>>Note, no response = approval. (new schema - 17 Sept, 26 Sept.
>>>
> comments
> 
>>>>close.)
>>>>
>>>>BTW, let's try to maintain separate threads on the issues? Will help
>>>
>>>me
>>>
>>>
>>>>sort out the proposals, comments and replies.
>>>>
>>>>From the minutes:
>>>>
>>>>Rendition attributes on <hi>?
>>>>
>>>>Discussion of whether to use non-presentation specific terms for a
>>>>defined type on <hi>. Resolved to use common terms for ease of use
>>>
> by
> 
>>>>users.
>>>>
>>>>Decision: Modify type for <hi>: enumerate: bold, italic, small caps,
>>>>underline, illuminated -- add to high type and make extensible
>>>
> (don't
> 
>>>>add drop caps)
>>>>
>>>>Proposed schema mod:
>>>>
>>>><xs:complexType name="hiCT" mixed="true">
>>>><snip>
>>>> <xs:attributeGroup ref="globalWithType"/>
>>>></xs:complexType>
>>>>
>>>>to:
>>>>
>>>><xs:complexType name="hiCT" mixed="true">
>>>><snip>
>>>> <xs:attributeGroup ref="globalWithoutType"/>
>>>> <xs:attribute name="type" type="hiType" use="optional"/>
>>>></xs:complexType>
>>>>
>>>>Add:
>>>>
>>>><xs:simpleType name="hiType">
>>>>	<xs:union memberTypes="osisHi attributeExtension"/>
>>>></xs:simpleType>
>>>>
>>>><xs:simpleType name="osisHi">
>>>>	<xs:restriction base="xs:string">
>>>>		<xs:enumeration value="bold"/>
>>>>		<xs:enumeration value="illuminated"/>
>>>>		<xs:enumeration value="italic"/>
>>>>		<xs:enumeration value="small caps"/>
>>>>		<xs:enumeration value="underline"/>
>>>>	</xs:restriction>
>>>></xs:simpleType>
>>>>
>>>>Working my way up to the hard ones! ;-0
>>>>
>>>>Hope everyone is having a great day!
>>>>
>>>>Patrick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Patrick Durusau
>>>>Director of Research and Development
>>>>Society of Biblical Literature
>>>>Patrick.Durusau@sbl-site.org
>>>>Chair, V1 - Text Processing: Office and Publishing Systems Interface
>>>>Co-Editor, ISO 13250, Topic Maps -- Reference Model
>>>>
>>>>Topic Maps: Human, not artificial, intelligence at work!
>>>>
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>>
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>>Patrick Durusau
>>Director of Research and Development
>>Society of Biblical Literature
>>Patrick.Durusau@sbl-site.org
>>Chair, V1 - Text Processing: Office and Publishing Systems Interface
>>Co-Editor, ISO 13250, Topic Maps -- Reference Model
>>
>>Topic Maps: Human, not artificial, intelligence at work!
>>
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-- 
Patrick Durusau
Director of Research and Development
Society of Biblical Literature
Patrick.Durusau@sbl-site.org
Chair, V1 - Text Processing: Office and Publishing Systems Interface
Co-Editor, ISO 13250, Topic Maps -- Reference Model

Topic Maps: Human, not artificial, intelligence at work!

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