[osis-core] type on identifier and subject, syntax of content

Steven J. DeRose osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:32:38 -0500


I finally read through this thread, and felt pretty lost for a while.

A few things I do feel sure of:

* The colon is really ugly if a prefix is standing alone, like in its 
declaration.

* Using something like "ISBN" as the type of an <identifier> in a 
<work> implies no claim to authority over the ISBN namespace, or even 
the individual ISBN -- no more so that my reading you an ISBN over 
the phone or putting it in a bibliography entry.

* I think Patrick's solution below for type of ident and subj is ok 
-- basically leave it open, but we provide a set of recommended 
values, and those values are reserved to mean what we say (in other 
words, people aren't allowed to say "ISBN" and mean some new scheme 
they invented instead.

* I'm still confused by the meaning of type="OSIS" -- it seems an odd 
usage if it's basically a private-use identifier -- would it make 
more sense to call what Patrick described below, "Local" or "Private" 
or "192.168" or something? I'm not going to push hard for that, just 
throwing it out in case those who actually understand this portion 
think it makes sense....

At some point I think we should tie this whole system in to URNs 
somehow; but I haven't studied URNs enough to know what it would take.

S

At 3:05 PM -0500 10/27/03, Patrick Durusau wrote:
>Greetings!
>
>Apparently my post concerning the dropping of enumerated types from 
>identifier and subject got lost in the flood of emails on the latest 
>schema.
>
>Let me make the following suggestion (subject to your comments and 
>my getting in contact with Steve):
>
>Type on identifier and subject should be xs:string.
>
>Suggested values for the type attribute on identifier and subject 
>will be enumerated in the users manual.
>
>If "OSIS" is used for type on identifier, the value of the 
><identifier> element, that is:
>
><identifier type="OSIS">The_Part_Right_Here</identifier>
>
>then the "The_Part_Right_Here" is the identifier for the work 
>represented by that <work> element for purposes of identifying that 
>work (whether it is this work or simply a work in the header).
>
>(Todd's general and continuing objection to this suggestion is noted.)
>
>Now, the value to be inside the <identifier> and <subject> elements 
>is also unconstrained.
>
>Note that best practices recommends that such value: 
>"The_Part_Right_Here" should bear a work prefix, that is to say:
>
>Work_Prefix:The_Part_Right_Here
>
>Where the Work_Prefix is defined in a <work> element in the header.
>
>The Work_Prefix is not required but does allow careful users to 
>create OSIS documents that are self-defining in terms of their 
>identifiers and subjects.
>
>This suggestion also avoids the use of the "x-" mechanism in favor 
>of users defining their work prefixes.
>
>Does this get a chorus of "+1's?"
>
>Hope everyone is having a great day!
>
>Patrick
>
>--
>Patrick Durusau
>Director of Research and Development
>Society of Biblical Literature
>Patrick.Durusau@sbl-site.org
>Chair, V1 - Text Processing: Office and Publishing Systems Interface
>Co-Editor, ISO 13250, Topic Maps -- Reference Model
>
>Topic Maps: Human, not artificial, intelligence at work!
>
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Steve DeRose -- http://www.derose.net
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