[osis-core] paraBreak, cite, q-continuations
Chris Little
osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
Wed, 15 Oct 2003 01:04:57 -0700
Troy,
Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> Chris,
> Let me get this straight. You are saying that you feel that Lockman
> intends Matthew 9:1 to be it's own paragraph? One verse.
> And from your quote below, you also feel that they intend for Rev 13:1
> to be it's own paragraph?
>
> I wholeheartedly disagree, and don't feel we can solve this by more
> traffic. I appeal to Caesar. (Steve, you around?)
True, in the case of Matt.9.1. Rev.13.1 contains one entire paragraph
and the start of a second because of the way the natural topical
divisions fail to line up with chapter divisions.
I'm sorry if you disagree, but Lockman's preface material and choice of
rendering style m pretty clear.
> Patrick, I would argue that if an entire paragraph can exist inside
> of one verse, then <p> should be allow in <verse>. Any chance you could
> just add <p> to <verse> for me?
We already discussed this in the lead-up to 1.5. The decision was that
if you need to break paragraphs mid-verse, the verse needs to be done
with milestones.
> Everyone, after spending a week arguing for a practicle addition for
> a real world case that I feel is necessary, I'm very discouraged to not
> get any concessions. We have added so many other things that go against
> the rules you all cite: we have page breaks-- why not force them to
> containers. We have line breaks-- same argument.
Of the milestones, only "halfLine" has any linguistic meaning. (We
might have created a halfLine element, but it seems an unnecessary
expense for something only used in certain Indic and Medieval Germanic
poetic materials.) Page, column, screen, & line breaks are purely
orthographic & have no linguistic meaning. Paragraphs, I hope we can
agree, have linguistic meaning as divisions.
The bigger issue is that we already have a way to mark paragraphs and we
agreed last time in Dallas that we don't want two ways of encoding a
single thing, when possible. (I don't know why we have two ways of
marking line breaks--2nd message on that topic to follow.)
> I'm just frustrated
> to have to spend one week on a real world problem that I can't get solved.
The problems you've cited are real, but we've suggested solutions for
all of them.
> I don't have time to defend my practicle position any longer against
> idealisms. Please vote and let me know if I'll need to use non-OSIS
> recognized tags to do my paragraph breaks, continuation quotes, and Old
> Testament citations.
How does making a non-conformant document help anything? Use Lockman's
own DTD if you want to do that.
--Chris