[osis-core] Summary of discussion with Patrick regarding proposed conclusion for references.

[Troy A. Griffitts]

PS.  Patrick.  It's 3:30am here.  I'm about to hit the hay.  I'm usually 
seeing your first few posts by now.  What's up?  Gettin' lazy on d-day? ;)

I don't understand where we ended up with 3 things we are trying to 
represent: 'work', 'refSys', and 'namespace'?  I don't understand 
'namespace' (in this context) and in my mind, I absolutely need 'work' 
and sometime 'refSys'.  It seems I've lost 'refSys' and am getting 
'namespace'.  Maybe someone could help me understand what I'm confused 
about, and why it's really cooler than what I want.

	-Troy.




Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> a few things.
> 
> i feel in the dark about the <identifier> tag.
> there must be a way to express work:French.NIV refSys:KJV
> 
> 
> Todd Tillinghast wrote:
> 
>> This is repost of the prior posting with an appropriate header.
>>
>> Following are a summary of a conversation Patrick and I had earlier
>> today regarding references.
>>
>> We came to the following suggestions/conclusions:
>> 1) Contrary to prior proposals by myself, there should be NO mechanism
>> or strategy to indicate that an identifier can be used without a
>> transformation for differing levels of the identifiers in the namespace.
>> External mapping strategies, techniques, software and/or specifications
>> will be used to determine if Bible.NIV:Matt.1.1 can "fall back" to
>> Bible:Matt.1.1.
>>
>> 2) <osisText> will have an attribute that self identifies itself as a
>> specific work (this attribute will likely be named osisWork).  This
>> value of this attribute must match the workID attribute of a <work>
>> element in its header.  This attribute will NOT define or declare the
>> default "namespace" to be used for identifiers in osisID or in osisRef.
>> A second attribute will declare the default "namespace" for use with
>> osisID identifiers and with osisRef.  The value of this attribute will
>> default to "Bible" and if a value is specified the value must match the
>> workID attribute of a <work> element in the <header>.
>>
>> 3) The <refSystem> element in <work> should be eliminated.  This removes
>> the confusion and ambiguity that exists regarding differences between
>> the <identifier> value which is a "namespace" in its own right and
>> <refSystem> with is also a "namespace".  As a result all references and
>> self-identifiers should be expressed in the context of a single
>> "namespace" as defined by the value of <identifier>.
>>
>> 4) There will be no mechanism to make a reference to one work using
>> another "namespace" and an identifier from that namespace.  The
>> identifier in a reference is always in the context of the "namespace"
>> and to the work that defines the "namespace". 
>> For example there will be no mechanism to make a reference to the text
>> in Bible.NIV based on the identifier Bible.French.LSV:Ps.42.13.  In
>> short there is no way to express Bible.French.LSV[Bible.NIV]:Ps.42.13
>> other than Bible.NIV:Ps.43.2.
>>
>>
>>
>> Examples:
>> Ex:
>> <osisText defaultNamespace="bible" osisWork="tev"> <!-- the
>> defaultNamespace could have been defaulted with the same result -->
>>     <header>
>>         <work workID="tev">
>>             <identifier type="OSIS">Bible.TEV</identifier>
>>         </work>
>>         <work workID="bible">
>>             <identifier type="OSIS">Bible</identifier>
>>         </work>
>>         <work workID="kjv">
>>             <identifier type="OSIS">Bible.KJV</identifier>
>>         </work>
>>         <work workID="fr">
>>             <identifier
>> type="OSIS">Bible.French.LSV</identifier>
>>         </work>
>>     </header>
>>
>>     <!-- ref to Ps.43.3 as defined in Bible.TEV and to the specific
>> work Bible.TEV -->
>>     <reference osisRef="tev:Ps.43.3"/>
>>     <!-- ref to Ps.43.3 as defined in Bible and to an abstract work
>> Bible -->   
>>     <reference osisRef="Ps.43.3"/>
>>
>>     <!-- ref to Ps.43.3 as defined in Bible and to an abstract work
>> Bible -->   
>>     <reference osisRef="bible:Ps.43.3"/>
>>
>>
>>     <!-- ref to Ps.42.13 as defined in Bible.French.LSV and to the
>> specific work Bible.French.LSV -->
>>     <reference osisRef="fr:Ps.42.13"/>
>>
>>
>>     <!-- ref to Ps.43.3 as defined in Bible.KJV and to the specific
>> work Bible.KJV -->
>>     <reference osisRef="kjv:Ps.43.3"/>
>>     ....
>>     <!-- same applies to osisIDs -->
>> </osisText>
>>
>>
>> Patrick, let me know if I have put any words in your mouth or left
>> anything out?
>>
>> Responses?
>>
>> Todd
>>
>>
>>
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