Add new quote specific milestone attributes - RE: [osis-core] milestone name inconsistencies

Todd Tillinghast osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
Sat, 16 Nov 2002 07:20:42 -0700


Patrick,

I have to strongly disagree with the use of osisID to match up start and
end milestones.  

If PT if for presentation type and SE is for Something Else AND neither
is to help us match up starting and ending milestones then we need
ANOTHER attribute for the purpose of matching up milestones.

We must NOT use osisID to match up milestones starting and endings
because we would force the inclusion of arbitrary trash in the
identifier namespace whose sole purpose is to match up milestones.  

If the encoder wants to create an osisID for a milestone let them but it
should not be required so that a pair can be matched up.

We should have some thing like:
<p>
	<qStart end="xyz"/> text <qEnd start="xyz"/>
</p>

If the "end" and "start" attributes are not required what good are start
and end milestones.


We do not have an attribute to indicate "PresentationType" in any other
element and it could be determined to be useful there as well.  I think
we should remove milestonePT and force people to use type and subtype to
describe the type of data the element is and figure out the
"Presentation Type" their style sheet based on the data type.  

I still don't know what milestoneSE is for.  Until this morning I
thought it was for matching up the "S"tart and "E"nd of a pair of
milestones.  If no one can explain what it is for we should remove it.

Todd

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:owner-osis-
> core@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Durusau
> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 12:42 PM
> To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
> Subject: Re: Add new quote specific milestone attributes - RE:
[osis-core]
> milestone name inconsistencies
> 
> Todd,
> 
> Todd Tillinghast wrote:
> 
> >Patrick,
> >
> ><snip>
> >
> >>>Todd
> >>>
> >>>Does <qEnd> need globalAttributes?
> >>>
> >>Yes, linked by osisID and splitID values according to the
> >>
> >documentation.
> >
> >I don't see any purpose for splitID for a milestone since a milestone
> >can not be segmented.
> >
> >Are you proposing that we "link" <qEnd> with <qStart> with osisID or
are
> >you refereeing to some other meaning of "link"?
> >
> Linking with osisID. Present due to globalAttributes.
> 
> 
> >
> >>>Is there a reason that milestoneSe is required?  What good are
start
> >>>
> >and
> >
> >>>end milestones without a mechanism to find their partner?
> >>>
> >>I don't read milestoneSe as being required? Reads use="optional"
> >>
> >
> >What I was trying to say and didn't was that I think "milestoneSe"
> >should be required.  (Sorry of the confusion.)  Do you see any that
> >milestoneSe should not be required?
> >
> Sorry, don't see why it should be required. I could simply want to use
> milestoneStart and milestoneEnd without the milestoneSe. (This
> attribute, like milestonePt, was added at Bob's request for pointing
> purposes.)
> 
> Patrick
> 
> 
> >
> ><snip>
> >
> >Todd
> >
> 
> --
> Patrick Durusau
> Director of Research and Development
> Society of Biblical Literature
> pdurusau@emory.edu
> 
>