[osis-core] Using Block Quote

[Todd Tillinghast]

See below

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:owner-osis-
> core@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Durusau
> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 1:31 PM
> To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
> Subject: [osis-core] Using Block Quote
> 
> Todd,
> 
> Todd Tillinghast wrote:
> 
> >Taking <blockQuote> out of phaseGroup would solve the abuse problem.
> >
> >I am still not sure how to use <blockQuote> in conjunction with <p>
and
> ><verse>.
> >
> With <p> a blockQuote would occur just like you see an indented quote
in
> prose, which may contain <p> or even lesser blockQuotes.
> 
> With verse, I would illustrate with Peter's speech in Acts (2:14-36)
> 
> <div type="section">
> <title>Peter Addresses the Crowd</title>
> <verse id="Acts.2.14a" next="Acts.2.14b">But Peter, standing up with
the
> eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, </verse>

I am assuming that this was "naturally Acts.2.14 and that you broke it
into 14a and 14b for the purpose of the blockQuote.  Is this true?

> <blockQuote>
> <verse id="Acts..2.14b" prev="Acts.2.14a">Ye men of Judaea, and all
/ye
> /that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my
> words:</verse>
> <verse id="Acts.2.15">For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing
> it is /but /the third hour of the day.</verse>
> <verse id="Acts.2.16">But this is that which was spoken by the prophet
> Joel;</verse>
> 
> Note here that reference cannot contain verse, Hmmm, should it?

What do you mean by "reference"?

> 
> 17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour
> out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters
shall
> prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall
> dream dreams:
> 18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those
> days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
> 19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth
> beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
> 
> ****
> 
> 36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath
> made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
> </verse>
> </blockQuote>
> </div>
> 
> 
> Patrick
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >Todd
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: owner-osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:owner-osis-
> >>core@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Durusau
> >>Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 12:44 PM
> >>To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
> >>Subject: Re: [osis-core] Highly Experimental! OSIS_PR_02!
> >>
> >>Todd,
> >>
> >>Todd Tillinghast wrote:
> >>
> >>>Patrick,
> >>>
> >>>I don't have a solution for this but the following is possible.
> >>>
> >>>p->verse->blockQuote->p->verse->blockQuote->p->verse...
> >>>
> >>Good catch!
> >>
> >>Yes, the problem is that I want p to contain verse but not allow the
> >>situation you describe.
> >>
> >>Thoughts on how much effort we should expend on not allowing bad
> >>
> >markup?
> >
> >>I agree that the case Todd has found is pathological but generally
not
> >>sure we can prevent absurd markup.
> >>
> >>Possible solution would be to take blockQuote out of phraseGroup and
> >>just insert it where needed. It would probably contain verses
anyway.
> >>
> >>Patrick
> >>
> >>
> >>>I don't think we want a <p> or a <verse> within a <verse>.
> >>>
> >>>I also am not sure how the blockQuote is intended to be used with
the
> >>>current model.  Can you provide an example?  It seems this might
> >>>
> >cause
> >
> >>>us trouble with our current no milestone strategy.  (Also
<lineGroup>
> >>>could be similar trouble.)
> >>>
> >>>Still trying to digest all of the implications.
> >>>
> >>>Todd
> >>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: owner-osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:owner-osis-
> >>>>core@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Durusau
> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 7:30 AM
> >>>>To: osis-core; klowery
> >>>>Subject: [osis-core] Highly Experimental! OSIS_PR_02!
> >>>>
> >>>>Greetings,
> >>>>
> >>>>Implemented some of the changes I suggested for your review. Note
> >>>>
> >that
> >
> >>>I
> >>>
> >>>>have also generated documentation without the annoying diagrams.
> >>>>
> >>>Useful
> >>>
> >>>>for HTML context but less so with the Word version. (Down to 30
> >>>>
> >>>pages!)
> >>>
> >>>>Chris: have not forgotten about your post! Reply to soon follow!
> >>>>
> >>>>Patrick
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Patrick Durusau
> >>>>Director of Research and Development
> >>>>Society of Biblical Literature
> >>>>pdurusau@emory.edu
> >>>>
> >>--
> >>Patrick Durusau
> >>Director of Research and Development
> >>Society of Biblical Literature
> >>pdurusau@emory.edu
> >>
> >>
> >
> 
> --
> Patrick Durusau
> Director of Research and Development
> Society of Biblical Literature
> pdurusau@emory.edu
> 
>