[osis-core] OSISScripture_01094 with new regex. (Typo)

Todd Tillinghast osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
Wed, 17 Apr 2002 08:01:03 -0500 

The reference element itself is of type xs:string, therefore it can have
content of whatever type it wants to, is optional, and should NOT be
parsed for information.  I noticed this practice in the encodings that
Troy and Chris did a couple of weeks ago.  The reference values that
must be validated are the attributes targetStart and targetEnd.  

Todd

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:owner-osis-
> core@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Durusau
> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 6:46 AM
> To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
> Subject: Re: [osis-core] OSISScripture_01094 with new regex. (Typo)
> 
> Todd,
> 
> Great explanation! Unfortunately I could not follow it! ;-)
> 
> Are you saying current schema:
> 
> Does validate attributes: referenceType, milestoneID, milestoneIDREF
> 
> Does not validate xs:string content of <reference>HERE IS NOT
> VALIDATED</reference>
> 
> ?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Patrick
> 
> Todd Tillinghast wrote:
> 
> >The first sentence below should read "in elements" rather than "or
> >elements"
> >I am afraid I caused some confusion in my examples.  I just use a
file
> >that looks like what I sent in the email to validate.  ALL of the
> >current instance of elements in OSIS use referenceType, milestoneID,
and
> >milestoneIDREF as attributes in elements.
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: owner-osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:owner-osis-
> >>core@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Todd Tillinghast
> >>Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 6:40 AM
> >>To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
> >>Subject: RE: [osis-core] OSISScripture_01094 with new regex.
> >>
> >>I am afraid I caused some confusion in my examples.  I just use a
file
> >>that looks like what I sent in the email to validate.  ALL of the
> >>current instance of elements in OSIS use referenceType, milestoneID,
> >>
> >and
> >
> >>milestoneIDREF as attributes or elements.
> >>
> >>So is valid
> >><reference refStart="Gen.1.20-22">Genesis 1:20-22</reference>
> >>However, while this is valid what you probably mean is
> >><reference targetStart="Gen.1.20" targetEnd"Gen.1.22">Genesis
> >>1:20-22</reference>
> >>The reason "Gen.1.20-22" is valid is for cases where the people
> >>
> >creating
> >
> >>the reference system did not have a distinct verse 20, 21 and 22 but
> >>rather choose to call the set of text traditionally know as verse
20,
> >>21, and 22 by a new name 20-22.  The new name could as easily be
> >>
> >called
> >
> >>"elephant" and the name that appears to be a range in not.  I
encoders
> >>want to express a range the should use the form shown second above.
> >>
> >(If
> >
> >>you have a printed TEV Bible, Gen.20.17-18 and Matt.1.2-6a are good
> >>examples of these cases.)
> >>
> >>Further, the reference system is defined in the "work" attribute of
> >>
> >the
> >
> >><text> element.  If the reference system of a reference is not the
one
> >>specified in <text> then the reference system must be included in
the
> >>reference attribute.
> >>
> >>Ex from Josephus ant.2.3.1:
> >>
> >><text work="Josephus">
> >>...
> >>	<div type="x-section" refStart="ant.2.3.1">
> >>		<p>1. NOW these ...<note noteType="explanation"><p>....
> >>also in all our copies, <reference
> >>refStart="Bible.Cath..Gen.37.10">Genesis
> >>37:10</reference>.</p></note>...</p>
> >>	</div>
> >>...
> >></text>
> >>
> >>Since the default reference system is declared as "Josephus" in
<text>
> >>the references to Josephus can default the reference system but the
> >>references to the Bible must specify the reference system.  It would
> >>also be valid for the Josephus references to be expressed as
> >>"Josephus..ant.2.3.1".  Note that ".." separates the reference
system
> >>from the simple part of the reference.  If ".." is not present then
> >>
> >the
> >
> >>reference system is assumed to be the default reference system.
> >>
> >>
> >>To reduce the confusion the following are valid:
> >><reference targetStart="Bible.KJV..Gen"/>
> >><reference targetStart="Bible.KJV..Gen" targetEnd="Bible.KJV..Rev/>
> >>(NOTE: This is a range that includes the entire KJV Bible.
> >><reference targetStart="Bible.KJV.A..Gen.a-a.1.1-1"/>
> >><reference targetStart="Bible.B..Gen"/>
> >><reference targetStart="Gen.20.16">Genesis 20:16</reference>
> >><reference targetStart="Gen.20.13" targetEnd="Gen.20.16">Genesis
> >>20:13-16</reference> (NOTE: This is a range.)
> >><reference targetStart="Gen.20.17-18"/> (NOTE: this is not a range!)
> >><reference targetStart="Gen.20.13" targetEnd="Gen.20.17-18"/> (NOTE:
> >>this is a range from the verse known as Gen 20:13 to the verse known
> >>
> >as
> >
> >>Gen 20:17-18.)
> >><reference targetStart="Gen.20.17-18.Q-1"/>
> >><text work="Bible.TEV"/>
> >><text work="Bible.XYZ"/>
> >><text work="Bible.h"/>
> >><text work="Bible.TEV.1998"/>
> >><text work="Bible.1"/>
> >>
> >>Hope that this clears things up.
> >>
> >>Let me know if I missed something or just made things more fuzzy.
> >>
> >>Todd
> >>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: owner-osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:owner-osis-
> >>>core@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Durusau
> >>>Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 5:48 AM
> >>>To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
> >>>Subject: Re: [osis-core] OSISScripture_01094 with new regex.
> >>>
> >>>Troy,
> >>>
> >>>I will be calling Todd today about the regex problem on reference.
> >>>
> >>>Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>No!  My bad!  Your original assumption was correct:  attribute
> >>>>
> >value
> >
> >>+
> >>
> >>>>display text container, vs. Todd's syntax.  The ':' int the
> >>>>
> >attribute
> >
> >>>>value was accidental.  rev v.00002 below
> >>>>
> >>>><ref refID="Gen.1.20-22">Genesis 1:20-22</ref>
> >>>>
> >>>Thanks for catching this rather serious problem!
> >>>
> >>>Try the attached revision and see if that fixes the problem. There
> >>>should be NO validation of the string between the <ref refID=....>
> >>>
> >NO
> >
> >>>Validation here </ref>.
> >>>
> >>>Patrick
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Patrick Durusau wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Troy,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Sorry, the question was the use of a ":" in the attribute value?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>If so, no, is it not allowed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Patrick
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I LOVE examples, as I am not up on the current XML lingo.
> >>>>>>I don't understand the examples below.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Are we saying that we're not having anything like:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>><ref refID="Gen.1:20-22">Genesis 1:20-22</ref>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>??
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Todd Tillinghast wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Following are valid:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>><ref>Bible.KJV..Gen</ref>
> >>>>>>><ref>Bible.KJV.A..Gen.a-a.1.1-1</ref>
> >>>>>>><ref>Bible.B..Gen</ref>
> >>>>>>><ref>Gen.20.17-18</ref>
> >>>>>>><ref>Gen.20.17-18.Q-1</ref>
> >>>>>>><rWork>Bible.TEV</rWork>
> >>>>>>><rWork>Bible.XYZ</rWork>
> >>>>>>><rWork>Bible.h</rWork>
> >>>>>>><rWork>Bible.TEV.1998</rWork>
> >>>>>>><rWork>Bible.1</rWork>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Following are NOT valid:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>><ref>Bible.KJV..</ref> (A side of me thinks this should be
valid
> >>>>>>>
> >>as a
> >>
> >>>>>>>reference to the whole work.)
> >>>>>>><ref>Bible.KJV.A..Gen.-a</ref>
> >>>>>>><ref>Bible.TEV-1992..Gen</ref>
> >>>>>>><ref>Gen.20.-18</ref>
> >>>>>>><ref>Gen.20.17-18.-1</ref>
> >>>>>>><ref>Gen.20.17-18-1</ref>
> >>>>>>><ref>Gen 20:17</ref>
> >>>>>>><rWork>Bible.TEV-1998</rWork>
> >>>>>>><rWork>Bible.TEV 1998</rWork>
> >>>>>>><rWork>Bible TEV</rWork>
> >>>>>>><rWork>BIBLE.TEV</rWork>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Todd
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
>
>>---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>>---
> >>>
> >>>>>>>                            Name: osisScripture_01094.xsd
> >>>>>>> osisScripture_01094.xsd    Type: text/xml
> >>>>>>>                        Encoding: quoted-printable
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>Patrick Durusau
> >>>>>Director of Research and Development
> >>>>>Society of Biblical Literature
> >>>>>pdurusau@emory.edu
> >>>>>
> >>>--
> >>>Patrick Durusau
> >>>Director of Research and Development
> >>>Society of Biblical Literature
> >>>pdurusau@emory.edu
> >>>
> >
> 
> --
> Patrick Durusau
> Director of Research and Development
> Society of Biblical Literature
> pdurusau@emory.edu
> 
>