[mobile-devel] Future And Bible Enhancements

Mon Jan 31 11:46:37 MST 2011

Hi Chad,

I have never thought of using Tray Slide but maybe I should think about it.
Have you got any examples of how you think it would work?

A lot of people have asked about Notes and maybe it should be higher on my
priorities than it is but personally I find it hard to type on these tiny
mobiles and don't know if I would use it.

Highlight is something that had slipped through my wish list.  Thanks for
the reminder.

Best regards
Martin

On 30 January 2011 00:52, Chad Uretsky <curetsky at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Here are a couple of thoughts for you Martin (and forgive me if any of
> these are
> already there - I haven't checked Amazon Market for any updates in a couple
> of
> weeks):
>
> - Tray slide down for version selection
> - Tray slide option for book selection
> - Module to be able to add notes
> - Ability to highlight/underline
>
> If I think of more, I'll let you know.  Thanks for all your hard work!
>
>
> Chad
>
>
>
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>   1. Thoughts regarding future And Bible enhancements (Martin Denham)
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> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:22:29 +0000
> From: Martin Denham <mjdenham at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [mobile-devel] Thoughts regarding future And Bible
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> I have started thinking about the next enhancements to And Bible and would
> like to give people a chance to comment.  The items in the first list I
> have
> been thinking about and am probably ready to implement.  Please comment if
> you have any thoughts or opinions regarding implementation or regarding
> items you would like to see or not see in And Bible.  Items in the second
> list I would like to implement but am not yet ready.  Items in the last
> list
> I have no plans yet to implement.  People seem to like the recently added
> grid navigation and that was pushed through because of comments from this
> group:
>
> *Possibly Next Release*
>
> *Speech*
> *I have spent too long thinking about how best to do this.*
> Aim: Allow multiple sequential or diverse chapters to be queued for speech.
> Alternative 1: Simple enhancement so that if Speech button is pressed on a
> chapter not being spoken the chapter is added to the speech for queue.  If
> Speech is pressed on a chapter just requested to be spoken then all speech
> is aborted.
> Possibility to allow fewer presses by moving the Speech button to the first
> screen of menu buttons but which button to remove and how to know if user
> can/does use Speech.
> Alternative 2: Show Speech Dialog when Speech button is pressed but this
> would involve a lot more button presses.
> Alternative 3: Add stateful Speak button beside Quick Link buttons (at top)
> in Portrait mode (more room) if selected in Settings.  The Speak/Silent
> button would switch between the several states Speak, 2 Chapters, 4
> Chapters, Book, Silent.
> My vote: I prefer Alternative 3 or possibly Alternative 1 because I feel a
> dialog just to add a chapter is overkill and could frustrate users.
>
> *Allow Xiphos Module Download*
> Include modules from Xiphos in download list.  Is there a Master List we
> can
> use?  If not I just plan to merge the Xiphos list with the CrossWire list.
> I also need to add a Refresh List button.
>
> *TSK Links*
> Requested by a couple of users.
>
> *Bad XML Toleration*
> The optimised page loading does not have JSword's bad xml structure
> toleration for books like WEB.  I plan to try falling back on JSword if the
> optimised technique fails.
>
> *Strong's List of Ref use*
> Use Lucene index to display a list of all  verses containing a certain
> Strong's ref
>
> *Remove Create Index Button*
> Does anybody use it?
>
> *RTL Page Header Tidy Up*
> I have considered separating out chapter, verse, book, module into
> different
> components to prevent bidi problems and improve layout for rtl languages
> (Hebrew).  Separate components would also allow us to switch everything
> around
>
> *Small Changes*
> More wait cursors e.g. when searching.
> Formatting of text needs more consistency and tidying.
> Splash screen needs better layout.
> Large screen Tablets can't scroll to last verse.
> Nav to Verse or Chapter Setting to optionally 3rd level to Navigation
>
> *Later Release*
> These are things I would like to do but not yet.
> *
> *
> *Improve Formatting*
> Important and ongoing.  I have really focussed on ESV but need to look at
> others more closely.
> *
> *
> *Fancy Header*
> It could be prettier but it needs to be small.  The Android Twitter ui is
> supposed to be a good model but the Toolbar there is very wide.  Also some
> have suggested allowing full page viewing but I am not sure.
>
> *Navigation*
> I don't like putting my fingers all over the screen I am reading but
> thumbwheels are not so common now so maybe: touch right/left edge to go
> forward back a chapter, touch bottom corner to scroll down.
>
> *Gen Book Module Support*
> Support CrossWire book modules
> *
> *
> *Book Speaker*
> I really like the TTS and would like to use it with Books
>
> *Chinese Search*
> I had to disable this a few releases ago but I have no visibility of the
> number of Chinese users of And Bible so don't know the priority.
>
> *Reading Plan*
> I did not know how many people use a reading plan until recently.
>
> *Twitter & Facebook Integration*
> Maybe somebody would like to contribute the code*.  **I am not even on
> Twitter.*
>
> *Hide Document Facility*
> For documents you want on your mobile but don't use often or for non
> directly used docs like Strongs.
>
> *Better Localisation Support*
> Localisations merit a dedicated resource to organise, support, check, ...
> Possibly integrate with Translations LaunchPad.
>
> *More Inter Document Links*
> *Faster Start Up*
> *Tabbed Document selector*
> *Pictures & Maps*
>
> *No Plans yet*
>
> Flexible verse selection
> Enhance/fix TTS suppport for non built-in versions like SVOX
> EverNote integration
> Personal Commentary
>
> Regards
> Martin
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> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 23:59:33 +0100
> From: Martin Zibricky <mzibricky at gmail.com>
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> Thanks for the next release.
>
> The grid navigation is really great. Maybe the old navigation could be
> dropped in any future release
>
> Martin Denham p??e v So 29. 01. 2011 v 22:22 +0000:
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> > Remove Create Index Button Does anybody use it?
> Do you mean by this to drop the support to create index?
>
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