[mobile-devel] future ideas for And-Bible

Thu Feb 3 02:09:45 MST 2011

Hi Guan,

Thank you very much for offering.  I have no knowledge of Chinese nor
understanding of the language structure.

JSword uses the Smartcn
<http://lucene.apache.org/java/2_9_1/api/contrib-smartcn/org/apache/lucene/analysis/cn/smart/package-summary.html>analyzer
but it used too much memory for mobiles.

My initial thought was to try to

   - use one of the other 2 analyzers in the smartcn
   <http://lucene.apache.org/java/2_9_1/api/contrib-smartcn/org/apache/lucene/analysis/cn/smart/package-summary.html>
   jar
   - remove the massive Chinese dictionary from smartcn.jar because it would
   make users uninstall And Bible because of it's size

Recently a user has come up with some other analyzers linked to from this
issue <http://code.google.com/p/and-bible/issues/detail?id=34&can=1> but all
the documentation is in Chinese.

It would be great if initially you could compare and recommend a suitable
analyzer bearing in mind

   - the low memory requirements and processing power of mobiles
   - small jars are better

If you were then able to trial and test the analyzer that would be even
better but what ever you are happy and able to do will be a huge help.

I didn't know the send message function wasn't working.  Is it working for
anybody else?  I must confess I never use it.

Please stay in touch and tell us thoughts.

Many thanks
Martin

On 3 February 2011 08:02, Guan YC <yc.guan at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Martin,
>
> the andbible is accessible in China,(facebook and twitter are blocked
> here),   I know some Chinese LuceneAnalyzer out there, but have not tested
> them on android.
>
> I've updated to version 0.20, the search function is intentionaly defered
> to later version, right?  and the send message function is not working.
>
>
> I'll checkc out  the source code trunk, and see what I can do to improve
> the Chinese verison.
>
> any instructions are welcome.
>
>
> 春节快乐！ Happy Chinese New Year！
>
> Guan YC
>
>
>
> 2011/2/1 Martin Denham <mjdenham at gmail.com>
>
> Hi Matthew,
>>
>> *Chinese Search*
>> The intention is to add Chinese Search.  The LuceneAnalyzer used by JSword
>> to do Chinese search requires a lot of memory and consequently did not work
>> on mobile phones so I disabled it but we need to find an alternative Chinese
>> LuceneAnalyzer with lower memory requirements.
>>
>> This need keeps slipping down my list partly because of the difficulty I
>> would have handling anything Chinese characters and being able to tell if a
>> search was working correctly or not.  It would be great if somebody who
>> knows a little Chinese and Java were to pick this up with support from
>> myself and Matthew.
>>
>> *Strong's ref Search*
>> I am planning to add a link to the bottom of Strong's ref pages that would
>> cause a search for all occurrences of that ref in the current bible.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Martin
>>
>> On 1 February 2011 01:47, Matthew Patenaude <mnglfiddle at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Martin,
>>>
>>> Great work on and-bible! I have been real busy lately, and so rather
>>> silent on the list, but have been reading everything.
>>>
>>> I second the highlighting; that would be great.
>>>
>>> Also, the idea of being able to insert personal notes connected to a
>>> verse is great, or at least to a chapter. I mentioned this before, but at
>>> the time you acted like that might be a long way off. The iOS Mantis Bible
>>> app does this really well, and I would like to be able to do something like
>>> this in And-Bible, so as not to switch between apps... :)
>>>
>>> The new grid is a definite improvement. Thanks.
>>>
>>> As to Chinese search, I joined the jsword-devel list as was recommended,
>>> hoping to catch some chatter on there about Chinese language issues, but it
>>> seems to have instantly died down. I am wondering what was learned at that
>>> time. I am still a little curious why Chinese search cannot be done entirely
>>> on single characters, using "AND"s and what-nots to tie a more complicated
>>> search together... I don't think there is any real reason to attempt to
>>> search via pinyin phrase, which of course would be much more complicated (at
>>> least according to my understanding, which may be goofed) to implement. I
>>> don't think anyone who uses Chinese seriously would really need to search
>>> the Chinese text via pinyin.
>>>
>>> Also, it would be great to be able to search text according to Strong's
>>> ref numbers, to compare translation and context of the underlying
>>> Greek/Hebrew text. I do this all the time in Bibletime/Xiphos. I saw someone
>>> else mentioned this functionality.
>>>
>>> Thanks again for the hard work you've put into this. It is really shaping
>>> up to be a nice program, and works well.
>>>
>>> Matthew Patenaude
>>>
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