[mobile-devel] Android bible

Martin Denham mjdenham at gmail.com
Sat Jul 10 15:30:42 MST 2010


Hi David,

I have put a few thoughts regarding future developments on the front page of
the existing Google Code site.  I hope to make the code available soon.

Kind regards
Martin

On 10 July 2010 17:28, David Forslund <forslund at mail.com> wrote:

>  If you check your code into the Google code repository, those of us with
> development environments could monitor what you are doing and provide
> suggestions before you do another full build.  Of course, you may not want
> to deal with all the "noise" that it would generate.
>
> Thanks for your efforts,
>
> Dave
>
> On 7/7/2010 1:20 AM, Martin Denham wrote:
>
> Hi SonWon,
>
>  I don't want to frustrate people by putting up a lot of builds which are
> only half finished so I am not doing very frequent builds.  I would like to
> address many of the issues before making another build available.
>
>  I am hoping to do another build in a couple of weeks.
>
>  Thanks for your continued input and encouragement everybody.  It is much
> appreciated.
>
>  Best regards
> Martin
>
>
> On 7 July 2010 01:37, SonWon <sonwon.1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Martin,
>>
>>  You wrote, "I have already switched to using a standard menu on my own
>> local build after playing with Troy's Bishop.  I have only just got an
>> Android phone and never pressed the Menu button!!!"
>>
>>  When could I get a copy of this version to test?
>>
>>
>>  On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 1:37 AM, David Forslund <forslund at mail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>   Some more observations:
>>>
>>> - It doesn't seem to remember what version or book and chapter were
>>> displayed the last time the program was run.   It always seems to start with
>>> BBE at Genesis 1.
>>>
>>> - If I select a book of the Bible but cancel the selection by hitting the
>>> back arrow instead of selecting a chapter, it goes ahead to that book
>>> instead of going back to the book selection.
>>>
>>> I know this is a work in progress, so I'm not complaining, just observing
>>> in case you weren't aware.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>  On 7/5/2010 1:38 PM, Martin Denham wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks SonWon,  That is useful input and thanks for encouragement.
>>>
>>> 1. I used Pocket e-sword for years and tabs for bible/commentary etc is
>>> the approach Pocket e-sword used but it uses a whole row and I found I
>>> normally just used 2 tabs (bible & commentary) so I was planning to
>>> initially have a bible/commentary button on the main menu bar (as you
>>> suggest at the end of point 1).
>>> 2. I have already switched to using a standard menu on my own local build
>>> after playing with Troy's Bishop.  I have only just got an Android phone and
>>> never pressed the Menu button!!!
>>> 3. I am not sure how to best fit book/chapter nav on one screen.  I
>>> initially tried and failed to copy Pocket e-sword's nav, but list items are
>>> so big on the Android  I have thought of putting the books into a grid, but
>>> then that still leaves up to 150 chapters.  All ideas appreciated.  I am
>>> currently thinking of 2 tabs - tab 1 containing a grid of books and tab 2 a
>>> list of chapters.  Alternatively I could have 3 tabs
>>> Document/BibleBook/BibleChapter.  That would also remove the Document button
>>> from the menu.
>>>
>>>  Did you realise you can drop other books from the CrossWire site into
>>> the appropriate place under the jsword dir on the sdcard and after
>>> restarting AndBible you can view them.
>>>
>>>  I need to select verses to enable display of the correct commentary
>>> verse associated with the currently viewed bible passage and I was
>>> considering auto verse calculation based on the current distance scrolled
>>> down the ScrollView - that is something I can play around with.
>>>
>>>  Last weekend I managed to increase speed considerably by bypassing some
>>> slow DOM creation code - now I just need to work around a couple of bugs but
>>> most docs/chapters display fine.
>>>
>>>  I am hoping my youngest daughter will create a splash screen for the
>>> app to distract users from the slowish start up time.  Also new  name
>>> "and-the-word" instead of "AndBible".  What do you think?  It obviously
>>> comes from John chapter 1.  I thought AndBible was a bit obvious.
>>>
>>>  Best Regards
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> On 5 July 2010 19:13, SonWon <sonwon.1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Got it, when I unzipped SdcardBibles it placed the jsword in a
>>>> SdcardBibles folder.  I moved jsword to root of the sdcard and all is well.
>>>>
>>>>  Thank you very much.  This is a very good start!
>>>>
>>>>  My first suggestion is to place tabs across the bottom to easily
>>>> switch between text, like Bible, commentary, dictionary, and etc..  Maybe
>>>> this could be done with the menu button?
>>>>
>>>>  Second suggestion, move the navigation buttons into a
>>>> menu assessable from the menu button.  This will free up space for the text.
>>>>
>>>>  Third suggestion, make the navigation to a new book, chapter, and
>>>> verse a table that fits all on one screen so the user doesn't have to
>>>> scroll.  I have a lot more suggestions to make about this area.
>>>>
>>>>  Thanks again!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Martin Denham <mjdenham at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi SonWon,
>>>>>
>>>>>  Sorry you had problems.  Error handling in the app needs to be
>>>>> greatly improved on.  Did you unzip SdcardBibles.zip to your mobile's sd
>>>>> card and have you now got a directory named jsword in the root of your
>>>>> sdcard?
>>>>>
>>>>>  To uninstall the application you can go to
>>>>> Settings/Applications/Manage applications/Bible/Uninstall.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Kind regards
>>>>> Martin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5 July 2010 14:27, SonWon <sonwon.1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Martin,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Bad news, I am unable to run the application.  I get a forced closed
>>>>>> error?  I am using Android version 2.1-update1 on a Sprint EVO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Let me know if there is anything I can do to help solve this
>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Also, how do I uninstall the application?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Caleb Maclennan <caleb at alerque.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2010/7/2 Martin Denham <mjdenham at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>> > I have built a working prototype of a bible for Android mobile
>>>>>>> phones.  The
>>>>>>> > prototype uses a slightly modified JSword back-end.  You can
>>>>>>> download the
>>>>>>> > prototype from http://code.google.com/p/and-bible/downloads/list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Martin,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Excellent work, this looks great for a prototype! Keep it up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will be following progress closely and perhaps participating at
>>>>>>> some point.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Caleb
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>  ____
>>>
>>
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