[mobile-devel] Android bible

Mon Jul 5 14:38:00 MST 2010

Hi SonWon & David,

Can you point me to any screen shots of the sort of grid you mean?  I can't
quite imagine what you are suggesting.

Thanks
Martin

On 5 July 2010 22:19, David Forslund <forslund at mail.com> wrote:

>  Hi,
>   I think the grid is a good idea.  Other bible readers use this nicely for
> the book, the chapter, and the verse (all accessible from a navigation tab
> or from a menu selection).
>
> Have you considered the use of the XOM toolkit (http://www.xom.nu/) for
> reading the XML?  I've used it for a long time on other Java applications
> and it is much faster and more memory efficient than the DOM XML model.
> It also is less prone to programming errors.
>
> I have the Android development environment and have developed many Java
> apps over the years, but haven't started developed on the Android yet.
> Perhaps I will look at what you have done and see if there is anything
> sensible I could contribute.
>
> Dave Forslund
>
> On 7/5/2010 1:38 PM, Martin Denham wrote:
>
> Thanks SonWon,  That is useful input and thanks for encouragement.
>
> 1. I used Pocket e-sword for years and tabs for bible/commentary etc is the
> approach Pocket e-sword used but it uses a whole row and I found I normally
> just used 2 tabs (bible & commentary) so I was planning to initially have a
> bible/commentary button on the main menu bar (as you suggest at the end of
> point 1).
> 2. I have already switched to using a standard menu on my own local build
> after playing with Troy's Bishop.  I have only just got an Android phone and
> never pressed the Menu button!!!
> 3. I am not sure how to best fit book/chapter nav on one screen.  I
> initially tried and failed to copy Pocket e-sword's nav, but list items are
> so big on the Android  I have thought of putting the books into a grid, but
> then that still leaves up to 150 chapters.  All ideas appreciated.  I am
> currently thinking of 2 tabs - tab 1 containing a grid of books and tab 2 a
> list of chapters.  Alternatively I could have 3 tabs
> Document/BibleBook/BibleChapter.  That would also remove the Document button
> from the menu.
>
>  Did you realise you can drop other books from the CrossWire site into the
> appropriate place under the jsword dir on the sdcard and after restarting
> AndBible you can view them.
>
>  I need to select verses to enable display of the correct commentary verse
> associated with the currently viewed bible passage and I was considering
> auto verse calculation based on the current distance scrolled down the
> ScrollView - that is something I can play around with.
>
>  Last weekend I managed to increase speed considerably by bypassing some
> slow DOM creation code - now I just need to work around a couple of bugs but
> most docs/chapters display fine.
>
>  I am hoping my youngest daughter will create a splash screen for the app
> to distract users from the slowish start up time.  Also new  name
> "and-the-word" instead of "AndBible".  What do you think?  It obviously
> comes from John chapter 1.  I thought AndBible was a bit obvious.
>
>  Best Regards
> Martin
>
> On 5 July 2010 19:13, SonWon <sonwon.1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Got it, when I unzipped SdcardBibles it placed the jsword in a
>> SdcardBibles folder.  I moved jsword to root of the sdcard and all is well.
>>
>>  Thank you very much.  This is a very good start!
>>
>>  My first suggestion is to place tabs across the bottom to easily switch
>> between text, like Bible, commentary, dictionary, and etc..  Maybe this
>> could be done with the menu button?
>>
>>  Second suggestion, move the navigation buttons into a
>> menu assessable from the menu button.  This will free up space for the text.
>>
>>  Third suggestion, make the navigation to a new book, chapter, and verse
>> a table that fits all on one screen so the user doesn't have to scroll.  I
>> have a lot more suggestions to make about this area.
>>
>>  Thanks again!
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Martin Denham <mjdenham at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi SonWon,
>>>
>>>  Sorry you had problems.  Error handling in the app needs to be greatly
>>> improved on.  Did you unzip SdcardBibles.zip to your mobile's sd card and
>>> have you now got a directory named jsword in the root of your sdcard?
>>>
>>>  To uninstall the application you can go to Settings/Applications/Manage
>>> applications/Bible/Uninstall.
>>>
>>>  Kind regards
>>> Martin
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5 July 2010 14:27, SonWon <sonwon.1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Martin,
>>>>
>>>>  Bad news, I am unable to run the application.  I get a forced closed
>>>> error?  I am using Android version 2.1-update1 on a Sprint EVO.
>>>>
>>>>  Let me know if there is anything I can do to help solve this problem.
>>>>
>>>>  Also, how do I uninstall the application?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Caleb Maclennan <caleb at alerque.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 2010/7/2 Martin Denham <mjdenham at gmail.com>:
>>>>> > I have built a working prototype of a bible for Android mobile
>>>>> phones.  The
>>>>> > prototype uses a slightly modified JSword back-end.  You can download
>>>>> the
>>>>> > prototype from http://code.google.com/p/and-bible/downloads/list.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Martin,
>>>>>
>>>>> Excellent work, this looks great for a prototype! Keep it up.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will be following progress closely and perhaps participating at some
>>>>> point.
>>>>>
>>>>> Caleb
>>>>>
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