[jsword-devel] Update on JSword

DM Smith dmsmith at crosswire.org
Sun Oct 11 07:37:36 MST 2009 

On Oct 11, 2009, at 5:04 AM, Manfred Bergmann <bergmannmd at web.de> wrote:

> DM, can you watch JIRA JS-11 and JS-12?
> We could do more task discussion there.
>
Ok. This week I may have limited Internet as I am at Oracle Open World.

>
> Manfred
>
> Am 08.10.2009 um 00:30 schrieb DM Smith:
>
>> Manfred,
>> I've filled in the wiki page. Take a look.
>> DM
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 7, 2009, at 9:38 AM, DM Smith <dmsmith at crosswire.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Manfred,
>>> I've started a page in the wiki (http://crosswire.org/wiki/DevTools:JSword/Personal_Commentary 
>>> ) as a whiteboard for communicating this information.
>>> DM
>>>
>>> On Oct 6, 2009, at 3:23 AM, Manfred Bergmann wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 05.10.2009 um 22:58 schrieb DM Smith:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/05/2009 04:10 PM, Manfred Bergmann wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 05.10.2009 um 14:22 schrieb DM Smith:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 5, 2009, at 9:09 AM, Manfred Bergmann wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think switching to Java 1.5 is a good decision.
>>>>>>>> As you said Java 1.5 is available for Mac OSX 10.4 and AFAIR  
>>>>>>>> this was the only door stopper.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then it would also be nice to get Generics in JSword.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What actually is missing to bring JSword up to speed with C++  
>>>>>>>> Sword?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The biggest things: av11n and ability to write modules (which  
>>>>>>> supports personal commentary). We probably should add FTP back  
>>>>>>> in. (Try to use HTTP first and on failure go to FTP  
>>>>>>> automatically)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> av11n I think is too big a challenge for me but I could have a  
>>>>>> look at writing modules.
>>>>>
>>>>> That sounds great. I'll tackle the av11n. It will be hard.
>>>>>
>>>>>> AFAIHS the low-level stuff is in jsword-sword and I guess here  
>>>>>> is the actual writing code to be implemented?
>>>>> The implementation will be in JSword. I can point you to the  
>>>>> classes that will need to change and I can document the layout  
>>>>> of the files too.
>>>>
>>>> Ok, that would be great.
>>>> Can we manage new features and all this update stuff in JIRA?
>>>>
>>>> I've already set up the project in IDEA, so I'm ready to go. :)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm sure there are others, but I haven't thought about it in a  
>>>>>>> long time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you need some distance from the project? Or were you busy  
>>>>>> with other things?
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess it was a little bit of both. I was busy with family  
>>>>> obligations and work. The big family events are past and work  
>>>>> has just eased up a bit. But then I just didn't get back into it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Manfred
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 05.10.2009 um 13:22 schrieb DM Smith:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm working on JSword again after a long time of not being  
>>>>>>>>> able to.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A couple of notes:
>>>>>>>>> I've upgraded all the QA tools (e.g. findbugs, checkstyle)  
>>>>>>>>> and in the process broke the nightly build. I'll fix that  
>>>>>>>>> shortly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am applying patches, fixing bugs, upgrading 3-rd party  
>>>>>>>>> components and satisfying requests that others have made. I  
>>>>>>>>> checked in a change for Tonny the other night. (Tonny  
>>>>>>>>> hopefully you grabbed that. If not you might need to build  
>>>>>>>>> the jars yourself.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you develop on a Mac in Eclipse and have upgraded to Snow  
>>>>>>>>> Leopard, you'll need to go into Preferences -> Java and  
>>>>>>>>> delete all the JREs and re-add them. Without doing that, it  
>>>>>>>>> will not let you run the program w/in Eclipse.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lucene has just released version 2.9. This is in preparation  
>>>>>>>>> for the 3.0 release, with the only real difference between  
>>>>>>>>> the two is that deprecations are being removed. The second  
>>>>>>>>> minor difference is that 3.0 will require Java 5 as it is  
>>>>>>>>> introducing Generics into the API (supposedly in a backward  
>>>>>>>>> compatible, drop-in the new jar, kind of way. We'll see.)  
>>>>>>>>> I'm working on upgrading to it. Lots has changed internally.  
>>>>>>>>> The impact to JSword is that our lucene search indexes will  
>>>>>>>>> need to be rebuilt, requiring us to finish their versioning  
>>>>>>>>> and handling a version difference in the front-ends.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Speaking of Snow Leopard for Mac OSX. Our policy has been to  
>>>>>>>>> support old OSes for a long time, but not forever. I.E. the  
>>>>>>>>> current and two prior. Soon we'll be dropping support for  
>>>>>>>>> Panther, which came out 6 years ago this month. (A year and  
>>>>>>>>> a half ago Panther was on 23% of all Macs.) This will happen  
>>>>>>>>> when we go to Lucene 3.0 and Java 5. (Note: Tiger does not  
>>>>>>>>> install Java 5 but it is available for install. We'll need  
>>>>>>>>> to provide notes.) I'd still like to release ELEPHANT (see  
>>>>>>>>> other threads or JIRA for a description) as the last Java  
>>>>>>>>> 1.4 application.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> With the new version of Lucene, I am a new method to  
>>>>>>>>> PassageTally called getTotal and SearchModifier with (set/ 
>>>>>>>>> get)MaxResults. This optimization will give us a place to  
>>>>>>>>> hang the total number of hits in a search request when the  
>>>>>>>>> user only wants to see the top 20 or so. The current code  
>>>>>>>>> would prioritize all the verses coming back from a search  
>>>>>>>>> and then sort them. These results were then pruned to the  
>>>>>>>>> top N verses. Lucene has now simplified how this can happen  
>>>>>>>>> with its new Collector method. There is a Collector that  
>>>>>>>>> only retains the hits that have a higher score than the N-th  
>>>>>>>>> one with the lowest score, but counts all of them.  
>>>>>>>>> PassageTally is at its best when it is small. So now only  
>>>>>>>>> the top N are put into the PassageTally and the total hits  
>>>>>>>>> are recorded.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lucene has also introduced new Arabic and Persian analyzers.  
>>>>>>>>> These will make searches on those much nicer. I'll need some  
>>>>>>>>> testing volunteers for that when I've got it all checked in.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In His Service,
>>>>>>>>> DM Smith
>>>>>
>>>>>
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