[jsword-devel] RCP prototype project added to incubator

Sat Jan 27 16:51:23 MST 2007

I pulled the projects into 3.2, and it compiled clean. Could you post the errors that you saw? 

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From: Zhaojun Li(李召军) <lzj369 at gmail.com>
To: J-Sword Developers Mailing List <jsword-devel at crosswire.org>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 9:48:35 AM
Subject: Re: [jsword-devel] RCP prototype project added to incubator

Thanks Philip. I wait for your 3.2 OSGi bundle.
At the mean time, I will start looking into the 1.04 and 1.05 codes.
IOC is a great idea. I will keep my finger crossed. :)

For parallel bible study, yes, I used XSLT in code and put into swt
browser. I have done it in tomcat jsp too. When I have time, I will
put the code here. That means a pure j2ee jsword on the server.

The XSLT style sheet is done by DM as in bibledesktop. That is the
reason that I put all my code into GPL. Because those converter and
stylesheet are GPLed.

I will start a new thread to discuss JRE with you.

Zhaojun

On 1/25/07, P. R. B. <dysbiote at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi Zhaojun,
>
> Thanks a lot for the encouragement. The interface is simple at this point
> while we hash out ideas. I figure we'll shuffle things around over time and
> move away from its current "BD-ness". Like you said, the UI and framework
> are flexible, it's just a matter of determining some objectives/principles
> to focus on as we come up with new material for it.
>
> I will drop the core projects into 3.2 to check out the OSGi problems. I
> didn't think about compatibility problems originally, but I think you're
> right about the OSGi version changing with Eclipse versions.
>
> As far as keeping the branches in sync: We could, as one option, refactor
> the main branch to handle different implementations. Sort of the "inversion
> of control" idea, where the factories are configured to use either the OSGi
> implementation (which would live in a separate jar) or the default JSword
> implementation (which could live either in the main jar or in a separate
> one). I kept the OSGi tucked down as far as possible to keep from breaking
> existing interfaces, so it should be relatively easy to accomplish.
>
> I haven't installed CROSS yet, but the screenshots look very impressive (I'm
> partial towards your parallel Bible implementation). Are you using mostly
> XSL transformations for the output in a SWT Browser?
>
> Take care,
> -Phillip
>
> Zhaojun Li(李召军) <lzj369 at gmail.com> wrote:
>  Philip,
>
> I have to say: WOW.
>
> Very neat interface. I will look at you code soon.
>
> I am not very good at OSGi bundle, those internal classes
> particularly. However, I applaud your work on those bundles,
> including the extension points. we need to find a way to keep jsword
> and commons synchronized with the main BD release. I did not have time
> to think about it yet.
>
> I tried to import your projects into 3.2.1. Got some errors on those
> OGSi interface. I guess it is because of API changes between eclipse
> versions. Anyway, in order to do the RCP bundles, we need the latest
> official apis, one reason is the enhancements.
>
> I will work on the 3rd issue. Keep jsword spi synchronized to prevent
> you from burning out. :)
>
> For the interface, I think we do not need to be limited by BD. Let us
> hear from DM that what he wants to add to the interface . You know,
> Jface and swt views, editors are very flexible and easy to use. If
> you have any idea, maybe I can help out. For me, I go with websword
> interface. You can check out at http://xinxinxin.org, my personal
> website.
>
> In Love,
>
> Zhaojun
>
> On 1/22/07, P. R. B. wrote:
> > Hi Zhaojun,
> > Thanks a lot for taking a look at what's out there. I checked in some
> > additions this evening if you want to look at them -- nothing major.
> Here's
> > a link to a screenshot of the change (275kb):
> >
> > http://paristano.org/public/jsword/rcp_prototype_2.jpg
> >
> > As to your points:
> > 1) I agree that the version should be updated at some point. I used 3.1 to
> > keep it at the same level as the existing JSword projects, but otherwise
> > there's nothing to keep us from upgrading it.
> > 2) The vendor jars have the necessary OSGi bundle information in their
> > respective manifest.mf files. Is there something else that should be in
> > there with them?
> > 3) You're more than welcome to help out with this one ;)
> >
> > I'm playing around with other view and editor ideas, so let me know if you
> > think of anything that you think would be worth seeing.
> >
> > Take care,
> > -Phillip
> >
> > Zhaojun Li(李召军) wrote:
> > HI, Philip.
> >
> > Good work!
> >
> > I am finalizing my rcp . I checked into svn at
> > xin.sourceforge.org(Because I did not have ant test classes defined ,
> > it seems I will never have time to do it now because my employer
> > demands me to work on c# from now on). Right now, it works fine. It
> > mimics websword and has English and Chinese locales . I still have
> > several places need to be improved. Right now, it support preferences,
> > update sites. Included also a rssreader. I even added a tray
> >
> > I am trying to decrease the total size of the app. So I tested you
> > work in my app, I noticed several places that can be improved:
> >
> > 1. It seems you are using eclipse 3.1. Since 3.3 is almost out, it
> > makes sense to upgrade to 3.2.1., the official release.(I am using
> > 3.2.1, will upgrade to 33 once it comes out)
> > 2. Vendor folder only contains the jar files with out a metainfo. It
> > makes sense to include them to commons by adding the them to runtime
> > classpath and export the packages.
> > 3. The jsword source code is not updated.
> >
> > Zhaojun
> > On 1/14/07, P. R. B. wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I added a RCP prototype application to the incubator. The application's
> > > current views function similar to the BibleDesktop frames (e.g. a view
> > that
> > > lists the non-Bible books, one that displays the selected book's keys).
> I
> > > don't intend to duplicate BibleDesktop across the board, but what's
> there
> > > now will give us something to start with. For those who aren't
> interested
> > in
> > > loading and running it just to see what it looks like (and there's not
> > much
> > > to see at this point), I have a screen shot here (270kb):
> > > http://paristano.org/public/jsword/rcp_prototype.jpg
> > >
> > > The same steps used to set up the OSGi test application (sent out
> > > previously) apply to setting up this project as well.
> > >
> > > This may be a good time to discuss (again?) what perspectives and
> > > functionality we'd like to see in the final RCP application. I figure
> the
> > > prototype will serve as a sandbox for us in which to play with different
> > > options.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > -Phillip
> > >
> > >
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