[jsword-devel] jsword-devel Digest, Vol 43, Issue 7

Sat Dec 29 13:02:24 MST 2007

Please see the inline comment below about the
simplified chinese.
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>    1. Bible Desktop option---------------->Language
> (Chang chia hsiang)
>    2. Re: jsword-devel Digest, Vol 43, Issue 3 (DM
> Smith)
>    3. Re: Bible Desktop
> option---------------->Language (DM Smith)
>    4. Re: jsword-devel Digest, Vol 43, Issue 3
> (Chang chia hsiang)
>    5. Re: jsword-devel Digest, Vol 43, Issue 3 (DM
> Smith)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 00:09:47 +0800
> From: Chang chia hsiang <prayer at praiseofgod.org>
> Subject: [jsword-devel] Bible Desktop
> option---------------->Language
> To: <jsword-devel at crosswire.org>
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> Dear jsword-devel:
> 
> 
> Bible Desktop option Language:
> 
>
chinese(china)------------------------------------------------->Good
> !!
> chinese(taiwan ,""province of china"") 
> -----------------> province of china (Taiwan's user
> don't likes it )
> 
> 
> Should we change it ?
> 
> 
>
China-------------------------------------------------------------->Good!!
> traditional Chinese        ---------------->no Local
> name(China's user likes it), no province of
> china(taiwan's user likes it) 
> 
> 
> Everybody enjoy read bible(Do not involve political
> issues) by Bible Desktop  !!
> 
> 
> 
> http://praiseofgod.org
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> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 11:25:04 -0500
> From: DM Smith <dmsmith555 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [jsword-devel] jsword-devel Digest, Vol
> 43, Issue 3
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> On Dec 29, 2007, at 9:22 AM, peter wrote:
> 
> > 2 points
> >
> > 1) should we really take sides in the one
> China/two China debate by
> > asserting Taiwan being a province of China? I
> personally have no  
> > view on
> > the matter, but would hate to offend either side
> by taking side.
> 
> I would be glad to change it. I merely took the
> official iso 3166 file  
> and converted it into a properties file. The name in
> there is what was  
> in the file.
> 
> >
> >
> > I would suggest simplified/traditional Chinese is
> well understood by  
> > all
> > concerned, more accurate (considering Chinese in
> Singapore, Malaysia,
> > Indonesia, Vietnam etc) and neutral at the same
> time.
> 
> I'm not sure that asserting that simplified is the
> default is a good  
> idea. Simplified was created by Mao as a way of
> wiping out the  
> traditions of China (out with the old and in with
> the new). My  
> daughter-in-law, who is from Taiwan, expressed the
> view that she only  
> wants to read traditional. I'm not sure, but I think
> that to assert  
> simplified is to assert communism in the minds of
> many Chinese.  
> Besides Taiwan, my son tells me that Hong Kong
> prefers traditional to  
> simplified as well.
> 
No offense is assumed here. 
I am from China. I read both Simplified and
traditional Chinese. But I read simplified most of the
time simply because I am not familiar with some of the
older words. I never relate the simplification of the
chinese characters with Mao. Not many people from
China are attached to Mao. I like the beauty of the
traditional chinese but does not like the fact that
the traditional chinese is complicated and take longer
time to write.
We use both traditional Chinese and simplified chinese
bible in our church and I never heard any strong
opinion rather than a person preference.

> On a related note, my son told me that mainland
> China has a rule that  
> software delivered into there country may contain
> any language and any  
> script except traditional Chinese.
> 

I am not sure about this and I prefer to not belive
it.
I would feel it very unbelievable if it is a fact.

> Making either the default will probably cause
> offense to the other.
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > 2) For one reason or another despite choosing
> Chinese (either) in the
> > nightly build (29/12) the programme runs in
> English only. Not sure
> > what/whether I am doing anything wrong. Running it
> from shell does not
> > seem to reveal any further info.
> 
> I'll look into this. My guess is that you may need
> to delete  
> desktop.properties. (I should add a way to "reset"
> properties to the  
> default.)
> 
> >
> >
> > God bless you
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > DM Smith wrote:
> >> I have changed BibleDesktop to allow one to pick
> either traditional
> >> (aka Taiwan) or simplified (aka China) in
> Options/Preferences.
> >>
> >> Another question: Currently we are displaying
> digits as 1, 2, 3, ...
> >> 9. Should these change and if so, to what?
> >>
> >> In Him,
> >> 	DM
> >>
> >> On Dec 27, 2007, at 4:08 PM, Yiguang Hu wrote:
> >>
> >>> DM,
> >>> Your understanding of Chinese is correct.
> >>> There are two major Chinese writing systems:
> >>> Simplified (GB 2312) or Traditional (big5). It
> does
> >>> not matter what dialet the user use, as long as
> he can
> >>> read Simplified chinese, he should be able speak
> >>> Mandarin. Or if he read traditional chinese, he
> most
> >>> likely is from Taiwan.
> >>> Both mandarin and cantonese from China should be
> able
> 
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