<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 4/13/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">David</b> <<a href="mailto:dk-dev@comcast.net">dk-dev@comcast.net</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Responding to these comments:<br><br>> > 3)If we decide to include wine in ICHTUX, we need to include the wine<br>> > tools scripts as well, for ease of installation.<br>> > <a href="http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/">
http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/</a><br>><br>> I would resist this. In general I don't think users are best served<br>> by running an amalgam of Linux and Windows software, even though that<br>> might be considered by some to be a pragmatic solution to a certain
<br>> subset of problems some users face. I also consider it to be a waste<br>> of free software developer energy to pour time into infrastracture<br>> that should and can eventually go away.<br>><br>> It's not that I'm dead-set against people using Wine. I just think it
<br>> opens up a whole hornet's nest of problems to include it in an<br>> otherwise completely free-software project.<br>><br>> Of course, Wine itself is free, so theoretically there is no problem<br>> including it, and just omitting the proprietary software itself. But
<br>> practically speaking, it would be unreasonable to include it and not<br>> expect users to tie up Ichthux developer time asking for help with<br>> proprietary apps. they are trying to get running on it.<br>I agree that wine is non-essential to the package and really should be
<br>excluded. Wine is free, but in order to use anything Microsoft you first<br>must have in posession an installation of a MS product. (Read thier EULA)<br>To avoid this, we should put a WIKI, or FAQ on how-to install these packages.
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Not only will I resist including win32 apps in ichthux (which btw I
think would be allowed by the Debian guidelines, that apply to CDDs as
part of the Debian project), but I think that people who develop
open-source apps for windows might soon see that it wouldn't cost them
much to port them to Linux so the apps can run on Ichthux and be part
of an entirely free christian OS. It would cost us a lot of energy and
get us out of our goals, when the devs of each win32 app can port them
quite easily, being used to working on their own code, and for their
own sake.<br>
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As for Knoppix, this is a great tool to create Live CDs, and this is
why I used it. it's very easy to customize and modify. But it's not
suitable for a whole distro, and I really would prefer working on a CDD
for the whole project, while maybe still using Knoppix as an associated
Live CD, containing the Ichthux packages as core.<br>
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Raphaël<br></div><br>