<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><br>2013/8/17 Gary Holmlund <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gary.holmlund@gmail.com" target="_blank">gary.holmlund@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>ëÏÓÔÑ,<br>
š<br>
I would like to explore how we could work together on this
project. I am glad you are interested in a QML version. It seems
that it can provide the best experience for mobile devices. <br>
<br></div></div></blockquote><div>This is interesting to me too. And i agree. I have many things to say but would like to focus on important ones.<br><br></div><div>I will spend someštime on design interface yet.Then focus on Core improvements then design again. I found that to create design that would be good for all orientations and screen sizes is difficult task. There should be different layout and scroll directions for different orientations, on big screen we would like to show more elements...<br>
<br></div><div>We ought to have somewhere todo list, to see each other's tasks in priority order. I will write there what i mean under Core improvements and we be able to discuss them. <br><br>Here is my list, only first paragraph is actual<br>
<a href="https://gitorious.org/bibletime/mini/blobs/raw/master/src/frontend-mini/todo.txt">https://gitorious.org/bibletime/mini/blobs/raw/master/src/frontend-mini/todo.txt</a><br><br></div><div><br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Since Mini is currently based on QWidgets, a QML version would be
mostly a new implementation, right?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I plan to use both QWidgets and QML versions for some period in one application, there is no problems to just include Mobile and deploy it with Mini. <br>
</div><div>š<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><div> Mobile is only partly
implemented. So I could see either evolving Mobile or starting
over and pulling parts of Mobile that we like. If it is called
Mini or Mobile is not important to me.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>For me too, i'm not ambitious. If some one on this list have opinion, i would appreciate it here. "Mobile" is not so attractive for me as "Mini", but last would be associated with something not full-functional. For this moment i'm incline more to "Mini" name.<br>
<br><br></div><div>š</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><div> I am interested in it
eventually being as full featured as BibleTime Desktop, but that
would be well after the first QML release.<br>
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I also feel that it should be in the same repository as BibleTime
Desktop. <br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I plan to produce modifications for main repo from now, maybe in form of merge requests... And when we will be sure in quality of my code, you would give me write access.<br>
<br></div><div>š</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><div>
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I would be interested in knowing more about how the builds on
various mobile platforms have be worked out. And also about
building Sword and other dependencies.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
<br></font></span></div></div></blockquote><div><br>I have just included clucene and sword sources in my pro files, made external resources available from qrc, and now i just open in in creator and compile/deploy.<br>
<br><a href="https://gitorious.org/bibletime/mini/blobs/raw/master/platforms/common/clucene/clucene.pro">https://gitorious.org/bibletime/mini/blobs/raw/master/platforms/common/clucene/clucene.pro</a><br><a href="https://gitorious.org/bibletime/mini/blobs/raw/master/platforms/common/sword/sword.pro">https://gitorious.org/bibletime/mini/blobs/raw/master/platforms/common/sword/sword.pro</a><br>
<br></div><div>Android port is relative in good condition, sword library would be compiled without modifications. Qt for iOS is crude, sword needs to be modified in three places or additional defines passed to compiler.<br>
<br><a href="https://gitorious.org/~kalemas/sword-svn-mirrors/kalemas_at_mail_ru-trunk/commit/247774e2bb095f4e646419f1356aeb227e515944">https://gitorious.org/~kalemas/sword-svn-mirrors/kalemas_at_mail_ru-trunk/commit/247774e2bb095f4e646419f1356aeb227e515944</a><br>
</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Blessings.<br><br></div><div>š</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
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On 08/14/2013 06:45 AM, ëÏÓÔÑ íÁÓÌÀË wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi, again.<br>
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<div>I have looked BibleTime Mobile, and would like to ask,
are you developing for tablet? Simply default window is
very big and have little controls. I'm primarily targeting
on smartphones, my own device is 480x800 with 3.7 inch
screen. And of course in final i would like the
application to run on all screen sizes.<br>
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I been playing with QML and found it very handy. Now i
want second frontend based on QML for Mini. There is
prototype of what i would like to see - <a href="https://gitorious.org/bibletime/mini/blobs/raw/master/platforms/qml/btmini/metro.qml" target="_blank">https://gitorious.org/bibletime/mini/blobs/raw/master/platforms/qml/btmini/metro.qml</a><br>
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<div>So i think we would unite efforts in producing QML
based front end. If you strongly wish that it will be
BibleTime Mobile, i have no objections (but better to
decide this collaborative, by all bt-devel list). And i
will remove Mini from Stores when Mobile reach maturity.<br>
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I have something to say about InstallManager. In Mini
there is workable/rough implementation of what i thought
is more convenient (It is available in GooglePlay now).<br>
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<div>As a user, first of all i want to see in install
manager is what content is available for me, for my
language, and 95% of content in available repositories is
useless for me. So i have combined all sources and groped
them by language, on first launch i scroll view to first
child entry of user's language.<br>
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<div>Next thing i want to add is, slight different
installation logic:<br>
ššš ššš pressing on a module displays dialog 'Do You want
to Install %1?'<br>
ššš ššš any existing panel becomes a progress bar with
cancel button<br>
ššš ššš installation starts in parallel thread, user able
to proceed selecting modules<br>
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<div>Blessings</div>
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<div>I have wubi-kubuntu, i will try to do it there. <br>
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Yes last time i tried to build BibleTime on Windows it was
not easy. For Mini project i just include required sources
for Sword and Clucene in .pro files.<br>
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<div>On 7/12/2013 4:02 AM, ëÏÓÔÑ íÁÓÌÀË wrote:<br>
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I would like to build BTM, but encountered
with that QtCreator 2.7.2 can't import CMake
project (it fails when looking for QtCore5.dll
not in right place). I'm on windows7x64, have
you any clue how i can be built?<br>
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Setting up a Windows build of BibleTime (even the
desktop version) is quite a task. And not only do
you have to build BibleTime, but also build sword
and clucene. I recommend against it for just
seeing BT mobile. Can you do it on linux?<br>
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You specific problem can probably be fixed by
putting the directory that the dll is in into your
PATH.
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