[bt-devel] KDE 3.0 / Mandrake 8.2

[Brook Humphrey]

On Thursday 09 May 2002 05:03 am, mark lybarger wrote:
> Joachim Ansorg wrote:
> > Ah, this clears things up.
> > Thank you for this, I thought KDE 3 was installed by default. Is there
> > any other distribution with KDE3 shipping ?
>
> RH 7.3 is shipping w/ KDE3 default ( second to gnome of course ;) ). The
> do have KDE2/KDE1 compat libs, but i don't know what those do.  There
> are no other KDE2 packages in RH 7.3.  7.3 was released about a week
> ago, but I haven't had a chance to dl/install it yet.
>
> I also believe reading that the latest SuSE version is shipping KDE3,
> but am not familiar with that distro.

Yes this is true off all those but do too the lack of apps and instability for 
now mandrake choose not to ship it. So on mandrake the only whay to get it is 
to have kde2 and kde3 installed st teh same time. kde2 installes in the 
normal place but kde3 installs into /opt/kde3. There are a few issiues with 
this and there are still some bugs in kde3. 

Redhat probably doesn't care because they push gnome anyway. As for suse they 
had to do some major patching of the code to get it to work nice and it still 
isn't what it should be.  

The end result is that for now kde3 on mandrake is working but not as good as 
it could be and is slower than it should be because of the hacks needed to 
get it to work with kde2 on the box also. Anything compiled for kde3 on 
mandrake will be a one off thing because of the nonstandard locations. For 
right now I'm still using bibletime for kde2 on my system. I;n the near 
future with the release of kde3.0.1 mandrake may replace the current packages 
with ones that will replace kde2 instead of runn allong side of it. When and 
if this happens whould be the best time to make packages for mandrake.


>
> > Joachim
> >
> >>On Thursday 09 May 2002 02:50 am, Joachim Ansorg wrote:
> >>>I'm using SuSE 8.0 with KDE3 final here - it works pretty well, stable
> >>>and fast.
> >>>
> >>>But isn't it a good idea to provide Mandrake packages for others who
> >>> want to use 1.2?
> >>
> >>Just trust me on this one. Kde3 on mandrake is not what you think. It is
> >> a bear to get it installed and working correctly because it is not
> >> supported by mandrake. Like fred mentioned Mandrake 8.2 shipped with kde
> >> 2.2.2 and kde3 is an addon after the fact. Most will not be putting kde3
> >> on thier mandrake 8.2 systems and if they do they will be fighting just
> >> to get it to work correctly.
> >>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>Joachim
> >>>
> >>>>Yes kde3 has some problems, i think most of them come from running
> >>>>kde/qt2 and kde3/qt3 at the same time.  It will be good when kde3 gets
> >>>>out of the experimental stage.
> >>>>
> >>>>Fred
> >>>>
> >>>>Brook Humphrey wrote:
> >>>>>On Wednesday 08 May 2002 07:38 pm, Fred wrote:
> >>>>>>The CVS file compiles on mandrake 8.1 with KDE just fine.
> >>>>>>make sure that the export statements point to the loaction of the
> >>>>>>KDE3 and qt3 folders.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I use this for mandrake 8.1, as 8.2 puts the files in the same
> >>>>>>place I would try this:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>export QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt3
> >>>>>>export KDEDIR=/opt/kde3
> >>>>>>export PATH=$KDEDIR/bin:$PATH
> >>>>>>make -f Makefile.cvs
> >>>>>>./configure
> >>>>>>make
> >>>>>>su
> >>>>>>make install
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Fred Saalbach
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Right I know how to get it to compile. I just don't want to mess with
> >>>>>it untill kde is more stable on mandrake. I'm basicly using nothing
> >>>>>but kde3 now and there are still some issues with it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Steven wrote:
> >>>>>>>Hello everyone. (Thanks to all who work on this project!)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Has anyone successfully installed Bibletime 1.2 for KDE 3.0 on
> >>>>>>>Mandrake 8.2 yet?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I have tried rebuilding the source rpm but to no avail yet.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Can someone comment on whether I can install the Suse rpm's?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Your all a tremendous blessing.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Peace.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Steven
> >>>>>>>P.S. Wow this project has come a long way.
> >>>>>
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