Joachim Thanks for your help, I think I was too tired last night, all is well today BT cvs is updated and installed. commands I used were as follows: cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.bibletime.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bibletime login cvs -z5:pserver:anonymous@cvs.bibletime.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bibletime update -PCd in Christ anthony