[bt-devel] beta1 is released now

[Martin Gruner]

Hi,

Am Sam, 01 Jul 2000 schrieb Joachim Ansorg:
> Hi Jeff!
>
> Am Sam, 01 Jul 2000 schrieben Sie:
> > On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, you wrote:
> > > I forgot to add that we need a "key chooser" widget.
> > >
> > > It should replace these 3 comboboxes and maybe these 4 buttons in Bible
> > > and Commentary presenters. The toolbar is too big and it's complicated
> > > to choose a verse, it takes too long etc.
> >
> > My recommendation is to eliminate the buttons; I like the comboboxes a
> > lot. I think they should stay.  IMHO they are more useful than a key
> > chooser.
>
> How would you eleminate the buttons? How should the layout look like?
>
> > We also need key bindings (like accelerators in 0.2x) to navigate through
> > the modules.  I strongly recommend <ctrl vertical-arrows> to navigate
> > verses, <ctrl horizontal-arrows> for chapters, and <ctrl pgup/pgdown> for
> > books.  I still think it would be nice to have the option to display a
> > chapter at a time in commentary presenters.
>
> Ok. We'll implement it.
>
> > > > Joachim, thank you for the screenshots. That is just exactly what we
> > > > needed. The animated logos search is very interesting and also the
> > > > greek window.
> >
> > To add the functionality Logos has we need better Sword modules.  For me,
> > footnotes and Strong's numbers have never worked, ever.  I think it is
> > more of a Sword issue (as the backend) than a BT issue.  Personally I
> > would love to see it - studying for sermons and on my own would be
> > greatly benefited.
>
> Did footnotes and strongs really not work?
> You need a module which contains them!
>
> BTW, you can see if a module supports strongs or footnotes by
> right-clicking on the module in BibleTime 0.3. Choose "Info" from the menu.
> e.g. the module KJVSTR contains strong numbers.
>
> > Another question: does Sword (or BT) convert modules of different format
> > into one format (such as HTML) on-the-fly for display, or are they
> > displayed "as-is"?
>
> BibleTime converts to HTML on the fly, the text of SWORD is often formatted
> as GBF.
>
> > Also, does the HTML widget allow you to double-click on a word to select
> > it? (Didn't work for me...)
>
> I think we have to implement it.

I already tried this. Would be easy to do within ceditwidget, but I don't 
know how to do it in chtmlwidget....

>
> > > > Now how do we continue the development? We need ideas. Joachim, I'm
> > > > not sure whether a graphical installation of modules is necessary
> > > > (there is an installmanager on the sword CD), and it would maybe be
> > > > an indepentent app. We should be sure to use our few capabilities and
> > > > resources in the right place.
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Easier module install for newbies would be nice!
>
> The installation dialog ;-)
> But Martiin dislikes it.

Hey! What I said was only that it might be difficult and a lot of work, and 
that there is already an install manager on the sword cd (though I never used 
it). Installing via ftp would be a cool thing for people who do not have a cd.
So I like this thing, but I am not sure whether this should be part of 
bibletime _now_. Maybe this would be big enough to be an independent app 
(kswordman?).

>
> > > > also remaining are:
> > > > -searchdialog (layout, rexexpeditor)
> >
> > Combine search text and search scope panes?
>
> Hmm, needs to be discussed.

The search text pane could be filled with some other things like a regexp 
editor. And we need some consistend explanation function within the whole bt. 
Joachim, i think you used QWhatsThis at several places, but I don't know how 
to use it in the program. We need to explain _every_ widget, option or 
whatever.
The scope editor must be changed: it must be possible to add modules.
I suggest to have all the modules listed, but only the active ones are marked
(the unused ones could be gray...)
Something else: after a search the search result page should be opened 
automatically, I only see a klineedit from the results page...

Joachim, in QHtmlWidget there are strong numbers like <07853> (displayed as 
07853), and like (8878) displayed as (8878). When such a verse is inserted 
into ceditwidget, the <> style stongs are not displayed, only the () style. 
Could you explain this?

bt does not terminate corrrectly when closed by the kde window X button.

>
> > > > -printing
> > > >
> > > > My suggestion: have strongnumbers behave as hyperlinks into their
> > > > dictionary We need to speed bt up! Not only a sword matter...
> >
> > YES YES YES!!!!!!!  Also verse references within commentaries and
> > lexicons!!!!
>
> Formmatting strong numbers as hyperlinks should be easy since they are
> formatted with special tags in GBF.

How do we do it? //ref:strong:07865 ??

> But it's difficult for verse references in commentaries and lexicons since
> they aren't (normally) formatted with special tags. AFAIK only in ThTML
> they use tags for this.
>
> > Thanks,
> > Jeff
>
> --Joachin

Martin